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Kateri je najbolj bizaren primer badge engineeringa?

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan So jun 07, 2008 5:15 pm

Na osnovi SUV modela Equinox:
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so pri GM pripravili konceptni Equinox Fuel Cell na gorivne celice:
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10 vozil so za potrebe testiranj pripeljali tudi v Evropo, kjer jih bodo dodelili izbranim uporabnikom v testiranje. Za ta namen so vozila preimenovali v GM HydroGen4:

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Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! So jun 07, 2008 5:18 pm

Mogoče bi morali še povedati, da je nos sposojen pri Pontiac Torrentu.
 
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Po jun 09, 2008 7:15 pm

Največji kitajski proizvajalec tovornjakov Sinotruck je sklenil dogovor z ruskim AMA ZIL o proizvodnji svoje serije HOWO v Rusiji. Rezultat so tovornjaki HOWO ZIL:

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Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Po jun 16, 2008 7:18 am

Ima tale Howo mogoče Volvotovo kabino? Tudi ime se zdi, kot da bi ga prilagodili svojim fonetičnim pravilom...

Neverending story, spet ena od GM:

obnovljeni mehiški Chevy C2 na osnovi Corse B...:

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Takole je izgledal prejšnji C2:

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Po jun 16, 2008 5:33 pm

Sprednji del je enak, kot ga ima tudi osveženi Kalos. Očitno bo to novi stil globalnih Chevroletov.
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Sr jun 18, 2008 6:08 pm

2008 Chery Cowin (Flagcloud), pred desetletjem v Evropi še znan kot Seat Toledo. Da se avto še nekaj časa ne bo upokojil dokazuje, da so vanj vgradili nov 1,5 litrski in-house Ateco motor:

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Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Če jun 19, 2008 11:22 am

Da malce popestrimo dogajanje, glasujemo za najbolj bizaren primer BI! Na voljo vam dajem naslednje ekzemplarje:

Francoski Japonec - Nissan Kubistar aka R Kangoo:
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Turško-francosko-japonsko-mehiški gnus... - Nissan Platina aka R Thalia:
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Japonski Nemec - Subaru Traviq aka Opel Zafira:
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Nemški Čeh - VW Caddy pick-up aka Škoda Felacija:
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Glasujte!
 
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Če jun 19, 2008 6:43 pm

Joie, v anketo bi lahko vključil še precej bolj nenavadne primere, recimo iranski Scenic ali Tatin Traffic, Nazo Bestari 206,...


ChangAn Suzuki je v ponudbo uvrstil petvratni SX4 1,6 Sport, z modrimi zunanjimi detajli in rdečim oblazinjenjem notri:

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Prav tako so za MY 2009 osvežili limuzino (beri dodali malce pri Kitajcih tako želenega kroma):
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Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Pe jun 20, 2008 4:58 pm

Maš prav, MK, bizarnih primerov je še polno, tudi je sama stopnja bizarnosti odvisna od posameznika, jaz sem zbral tiste bolj znane primere, se pravi znamke in modele, ki jih vsi poznamo. Meni osebno je sicer najbolj všeč Hondin LR Discovery. Pa tebi?
 
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Napisal/-a Lignage Pe jun 20, 2008 10:13 pm

Izmed tistih v anketi je zame najbolj bizarna Felicia. Platina mi je pa celo boljša od naše Thalie :)

Drugače pa verjetno kakšna Alfa Arna, ki je bil avto, ki so ga oblikovali Japonci in izdelali Italjani.

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan So jun 21, 2008 3:25 pm

Jaz nimam nobenega favorita. Toliko je bilo nenavadnih primerov, da sem večino že pozabil. Najprej bi si moral ogledati vseh 87 strani. Še vedno je eden favoritov Scenic iz Irana, pa Chevrolet Traffic, Porsche Transporter, če upoštevam nam znane avtomobile... Škoda da ne bo Zastavine Astre.

Sedaj pa zopet k novim primerom.
Podobno kot že številna druga podjetja pred njim, tudi Zahav Motors uvaža kitajska vozila za prodajo pod svojo znamo. Trenutno ponujajo tri stare SUV kdo bi vedel katerega proizvajalca.

ZAHAV PICK UP DOBLE:
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Bolj zanimiv pa je podatek, da podjetje namerava v španskem Cadizu zgraditi tovarno za proizvodnjo teh vozil. Namenjena naj bi bila afriškem trgu.

19/06/2008 - The manufacturer of SUVs Zahav Motor will open a plant in the Bay of Cadiz that will create 540 jobs.

The counselor Andalusian innovation, Science and Business, Francisco Vallejo, announced today in Cadiz installation of a new company in the Bay, Zahav Motor dedicated to the manufacture of jeeps, which will invest in the zone and 50.7 million euros will create 540 jobs.

In press conference after chairing a meeting of the committee monitoring plan Competitive Bay, Vallejo explained that this is an international company of Chinese and Iranian capital, which has production sites in China, Iran and Russia.

According said, Zahav Motor intended locate a plant in Europe, referring to the "perfect location of Cadiz" because of its proximity to the African continent, since these vehicles are to "emerging countries, mainly in Africa."

Thus, the plant will Cadiz assembly of vehicles and added that the installation of this company, in Port Royal, on land that the Board purchased a Delphi a few years ago, will take place "immediately", he said.

On the other hand, responsible for advanced innovation that the Government of Andalusia is in "very advanced talks" with three other companies for installation in the Bay of Cadiz and hoped that the various agreements can be closed "in the coming weeks", meaning that involve a "significant development for jobs and industry" in the area.

Finally, Vallejo stated that the Programme for the Improvement of Competitiveness and Development of the Bay of Cadiz sum and ten industrial projects which are at different stages of development and to mobilize private investment in excess of 657 million and generate 3,400 jobs.


June 19, 2008 - Spain, the first country in Western Europe assemble vehicles in China.

Undoubtedly the most important news related to the picture of the engine in Spain in recent weeks. The manufacturer of Chinese-Iranian capital Zahav Motor will begin assembly of its vehicles in Cadiz, specifically on land that belonged to Delphi years ago and now are of Andalusia.

At the moment we do not know many details about it on the range of models that could be marketed in Spain, although it seems clear that its key models, and pick up the Super all-terrain will be among them. In any case, the main market for these models will be the African.

With the creation of the new company, Zahav Motor SA, will create over 540 direct jobs and invest in the area no less than 50.7 billion euros, which will undoubtedly benefit the entire Bay area Cadiz.


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Napisal/-a martin_krpan To jun 24, 2008 5:18 pm

martin_krpan na strani 58 je napisal/-a:Pars Khodro je osvežil model P.K - avto, ki temelji na prvi generaciji Renaulta 5:
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Poučen članek o P.K. in Renaultu v Iranu na splošno:
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One of the more memorable attempts to interest the great American public in French cars was the persistent but doomed marketing of a tiny hatchback called the Renault Le Car, which now seems just a quirky footnote in motoring history.

Amazingly, though, the model - first launched in Europe in 1972 and usually known as the Renault 5 - lives on in the unlikely setting of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

With its radically simple, forward-looking styling and full length sloping rear door, the little French car was actually one of the great pioneering European hatchbacks, selling in huge numbers in France and across Europe over a long career lasting until 1984. Economy was its raison d’être, and its base engine was just 845cc.

Best suited for zipping around the back streets of Paris, the smallest Renault of its day was a bizarre choice of model to export to the USA, where it arrived in 1976. With federal bumpers and inset round headlights, which ruined the styling, it was much misunderstood and failed to tempt many buyers away from their Honda Civics.

Worse still, in a misguided attempt to capitalise on the model’s French origins, the Renault 5 title in the US was soon changed to Renault Le Car, emblazoned on the sides in large letters, to the bewilderment of French speakers (car actually means coach in French). In later years, these baby Renaults were sold through AMC showrooms, and boasted a five-door model with a 1.4-litre engine.

The model died in 1984, although a much enlarged second-generation Renault 5 was available in Europe until 1996, by which time it had been eclipsed by the more modern Clio.

Somewhere along the road, however, the original 5 went into production in Iran under the auspices of a company called Pars Khodro, which still makes it.

Iran’s market has traditionally being closed to imports, meaning such oddities are more common than you might think: until recently the Paykan, a variant of the 1960s Hillman Hunter, was the country’s best-selling car.

The Renault 5 was originally sold in Iran under the name Sepand in a form little-changed from the French original. More recently the model has been renamed simply the PK and limited exports have taken place to neighbouring countries such as Syria.

Pars Khodro itself is now a subsidiary of another Iranian manufacturer, SAIPA, which successfully manufactures various versions of the Kia Pride (better known to Americans as the original Ford Festiva). Somewhere down the line the PK apparently acquired the Kia Pride's mechanicals and floorpan - which has necessitated a wider track, leading to the latest model having slightly odd proportions - together with other modern features such as air conditioning.

Around 2006 a supposedly new version of the PK was launched but, with the exception of new wrap-round rear light clusters it looks pretty similar to the five-door version of the French original.

Pars Khodro also assembles more modern Renault models, notably the Megane and the increasingly-ubiquitous Dacia Logan. It seems possible the Logan may eventually supercede the PK as the choice of economy-minded Iranians.
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Sr jun 25, 2008 9:59 am

Mitsubishi Australia je uvrstil v ponudbo serijo predelanih vozil Panther. Avtomobili so opremljeni z zunanjimi spojlerji, velikimi platišči (Lancer recimo ima 20 palčna) ter številnimi nalepkami.

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Če jun 26, 2008 4:16 pm

Dodatne fotografije prenovljene indijske Ford Fieste. Je pa zanimivo, da je s tem Fiesta sedaj tam dražja od Fusiona.



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Vse različice so opremljene s klimatsko napravo, čeprav osnovna paketa nimate ne zračnih blazin ne ABS. Najbogatejši ima v notranjosti aplikacije iz imitacije lesa ter oblazinjenje v usnju in skaju. Modra verzija je športni S paket. Motorja sta 1,6 bencinar (100 KM) in znani 1,4 TDCI (68 KM).
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Če jul 03, 2008 5:47 pm

martin_krpan na strani 21 je napisal/-a:Holden Rodeo
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Po faceliftu Isuzuja je prenova doletela tudi Avstralca, ki se po novem imenuje Colorado. Odkar sta se GM in Isuzu razšla, Holden namreč več nima pravice do uporabe starega imena.

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Če jul 10, 2008 6:58 pm

martin_krpan na strani 45 je napisal/-a:Chevrolet Brazilija....

...na tamkajšnjem trgu že ponuja... Classic (prav tako na osnovi Corse mk2):
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2009 Corsa Classic s spremenjeno sprednjo masko in večjim ter pozlačenim Chevroletovim križem. Notranjost je precej posodobljena. Motor je eden, enolitrski.

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan So jul 12, 2008 10:08 am

Ameriška verzija nove japonsko-evropske Honde Accord: 2009 Acura TL. Kupci bodo lahko izbrali tudi štirikolesno gnano različico.

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Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Ne jul 13, 2008 10:26 pm

MK, Ameriška verzija našega Accorda se imenuje TSX:

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TL je večji model, ki je svoj čas temeljil na debelejšem ameriškem accordu, zdaj pa bi znal biti celo na podvozju legenda/RL, nisem pa prepričan.
 
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Napisal/-a Voith Po jul 14, 2008 9:56 am

teli iz izbire so res precej bizarni.

kako gnilo je to mesanje znamk, kr neki.. kmal bo vse isto, sam lahko bos dobil s katerokol znacko k si bos zazelel.

hvala bogu za firme, ki se tega ne grejo..
 
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Po jul 14, 2008 5:26 pm

Joie de vivre! je napisal/-a:MK, Ameriška verzija našega Accorda se imenuje TSX:

TL je večji model, ki je svoj čas temeljil na debelejšem ameriškem accordu, zdaj pa bi znal biti celo na podvozju legenda/RL, nisem pa prepričan.


Ja, stara Acura TL je bila malce predelani ameriški Accord, ki je večjih dimenzij od našega. Torej moja informacija ne drži. Je pa TL skoraj identičen TSX-u, tudi iz boka. To me je zavedlo.
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