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Napisal/-a lizard So maj 31, 2008 1:42 pm

Mater ste bedni ej. Kot je rekel Dr.M3, ultimativnega 4x4 pogona ni.

Med drugim warmaster Quattro pogon v A3/Golf (haldex) sploh ni enak tistemu iz RS4 (torsen C) in potem je tu še tisti iz R8, ki ima viskozno sklopko (enako kot Gallardo), če se prav spomnim.

Pogon s torsen C diferencialom imenovanim Q4 pa je imela med prvimi Alfa v 156ki Crosswagon.

Tak da ga nehajte srat že enkrat, sploh s tem poveličevanjem Quattro pogona. Da ne bo kdo kaj narobe razumel, sem tudi sam mnenja, da je med (naj)boljšimi, ampak neko mero objektivnosti je treba met.

@adis, malo više pokukaj ko naslednjič lepiš link :P
 
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Napisal/-a adis So maj 31, 2008 1:43 pm

abbe je napisal/-a:isti link je pou strani visje zaliman.
ne sledis debati?


hvala očitno sem spregledal tisti link
se opravičujem za off :oops:

ps: tudi najboljši se zmotijo :P
 
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Napisal/-a E=mc^2 So maj 31, 2008 1:47 pm

adis je napisal/-a:evo clip-a ki predstavlja premoč quatrra pred vsemi ostalimi all-wheel pogoni:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKstZ6a ... re=related


no naj se najde nekdo (meni ni uspelo) pa mi najde takole primerjavo med dvema pravima štirkolesno gnanima tekmecema...to je AUDI in SUBARU...tale gornja primerjava je kr neki in ne da nobenega odgovora, ker ''pred ostalimi all-wheel pogoni'' ni simetričnega od subaruja...primerjajo torsenov diferencial z nekimi plastik fatntastik visko in haldex sistemi...
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Napisal/-a lizard So maj 31, 2008 2:03 pm

Zanimiva bi bila primerjava Alfe 159 2.4 M-Jet Q4 in Audija A4 2.7 TDI Quattro, oba imata namreč pogon z najnovejšim sredinskim Torsen T-3 diferencialom.
 
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Napisal/-a snikerson So maj 31, 2008 4:46 pm

Malo offtopic sicer, sam večina vas govori o oh in sploh subarujevem 4kolesnem pogonu, ne rečem, kapo dol, sam po keri logiki pol nova impreza zaostane 2sec na krog proti golfu V GTI... glede quattra, ga ma fotr in je res super, xdrive-a pa neom komentiral, ker še nisem mel prilike sprobat..
 
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Napisal/-a E=mc^2 So maj 31, 2008 5:55 pm

tukaj imam en video...a spet...zlomka...vedno se izognejo neposredni primerjavi Subaru vs. Audi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09ExAUg ... re=related
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Napisal/-a esem Po jul 13, 2009 6:37 pm

Kaj se bodo dogovorili?

Quattroruote je napisal/-a:Volkswagen e Porsche
IL 23 LUGLIO, FORSE, NE SAPREMO DI PIÙ
Pubblicata il 13/07/2009


Porsche ha indetto per il prossimo 23 luglio una riunione straordinaria del consiglio di sorveglianza durante la quale si discuteranno i rapporti industriali e azionari con Volkswagen, oltre a valutare il possibile ingresso tra i soci dell'Emirato del Qatar.

Da qui al 23 tutto può ancora succedere e ovviamente le indiscrezioni galoppano. Una delle ultime rilanciata da "Der Spiegel", è che Volkswagen avrebbe aumentato la propria offerta per l'acquisizione del marchio di Zuffenhausen. Il Gruppo di Wolfsburg ora sarebbe disposto a mettere sul tavolo una somma decisamente superiore ai 4 miliardi di euro (contro i 3-4 miliardi precedenti) pur di arrivare a controllare il 49,9% di Porsche.

E poi c'è il Qatar. Secondo l'agenzia tedesca Dpa l'Emirato avrebbe avanzato una proposta da circa 7 miliardi di euro per entrare in Porsche con una quota che per il momento è indicata tra il 15 e il 29,9% (il 25% sembra l'ipotesi più verosimile). L'offerta del fondo sovrano del Golfo consentirebbe a Porsche di ripianare buona parte dei debiti accumulati nel fallito tentativo di scalata a VW (9 miliardi di euro). Porsche, dal canto suo, ha ribadito di essere in trattative esclusive solo con il Qatar e di non avere contatti con fondi sovrani di Cina e Russia né con un hedge fund non meglio specificato. Va anche aggiunto (è un'indiscrezione odierna della "Frankfurter Allgemeine") che il Land della Bassa Sassonia (azionista al 20% di VW) e lo stesso Gruppo di Wolfsburg riterrebbero falsa la voce relativa all'offerta di 7 miliardi di euro del Qatar a Porsche.

La decisione finale spetterà ovviamente alle famiglie Porsche e Piëch, mentre cresce una certa insoddisfazione sull'operato del presidente di Porsche, Wendelin Wiedeking. In un vertice tenutosi nel weekend a Salisburgo, i "cugini terribili" dell'automobilismo mondiale, ossia Wolfgang (Porsche) e Ferdinand (Piëch) hanno ribadito le loro posizioni, al momento ancora distanti. Il primo spingerebbe per l'ingresso del Qatar nella Automobil Holding di Porsche; Piëch (nipote di Ferdinand Porsche e presidente del consiglio di controllo VW) sarebbe invece più favorevole a una profonda integrazione tra le due Case.


snikerson je napisal/-a:Malo offtopic sicer, sam večina vas govori o oh in sploh subarujevem 4kolesnem pogonu, ne rečem, kapo dol, sam po keri logiki pol nova impreza zaostane 2sec na krog proti golfu V GTI...


Na suhi pisti z letečim štartom (+večja teža in izgube prenosa?)?
 
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Napisal/-a esem Pe sep 25, 2009 10:56 pm

VW naj bi se zanimal za Ssangyong

Volkswagen interessata ad acquistare Ssangyong
pubblicato da Lorenzo Corsani in: Volkswagen Anticipazioni Mercato


Volkswagen è interessata ad acquistare Ssangyong. Il marchio sud coreano sta attraversando un periodo di crisi ed il suo azionista di maggioranza è la cinese SAIC, con cui il gruppo VAG ha creato la joint venture Shanghai VW. Ssangyong è attualmente in una fase di bancarotta pilotata e SAIC aveva già preso in considerazione l’ipotesi di cedere una grossa fetta del proprio pacchetto azionario. Per Volkswagen l’acquisto potrebbe significare un aumento della produzione totale di circa 250.000 unità annue.

L’acquisto di Ssangyong, insieme all’interessamento concreto verso MAN, darebbe quindi concretezza agli annunci di due nuovi marchi da inglobare nella galassia del gruppo VAG, come dichiarato dallo stesso Ferdinand Piech, mentre procedono i progetti di acquisto anche per Suzuki.


O G7

VW design boss Walter de’Silva can’t sleep because of the new Golf 7
Posted on 24-09-2009 by Andrey

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While some of you might consider making a car is as simple as screwing some nuts and bolts together so that the body will stay together, think again, as the whole technological process of building a new car is a very tough one.

Further testimony to this fact are some statements from the Volkswagen group’s design boss, Walter de’Silva, known for the Seat Altea and Leon, Alfa Romeo 156, Audi A5, A6 and many more. He revealed that the biggest challenge in his lifetime is currently represented by design of the future Golf 7 model. He says that after taking over the design department of VAG, the new version literally kept him from sleeping.

de’Silva revealed that he can’t sleep at night when he thinks of the new Golf. The model will be redesigned from head to toe, and might arrive around 2012. Work is already underway so de’Silva must repay the confidence that has been invested in him.

Another interesting statement from the Italian designer is in regards to the personal time, as it seems that de’Silva spent more time with the Volkswagen group boss, Dr. Winterkorn, than he spent with his wife.

Hopefully though Walter de’Silva will pull through and honor one of the most famous models in automotive history. Until then, may we see great improvements in the future spyshots of the new Golf 7.


Pri takih "novoletnih" lučeh bi bil vsak nespečen :P :lol:
 
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Napisal/-a MacTron Pe sep 25, 2009 11:08 pm

esem je napisal/-a:Pri takih "novoletnih" lučeh bi bil vsak nespečen :P :lol:


off:
Literarno seveda, ker nasploh so mu obsijane "navadne R8 luci" kje bo on razmisljal
se o Full LED hearlights (ki so pri tem modelu zagledale luc sveta lansko leto :) )
http://www.avtomobilizem.com/forum/view ... 4&start=20

Sicer bo pa Golf 7 nek precep. (nadaljevanje v temi namenjeni VII)
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Napisal/-a esem To nov 10, 2009 2:49 am

VAG je največji!

Autocar je napisal/-a:VW becomes largest car maker

09 November 2009

Volkswagen has overtaken Toyota to become the world’s largest carmaker on units produced, according to the latest set of production figures.

German reports over the weekend quoted the figures from industry analysts Global Insight. The figures said the VW Group manufactured 4.4 million units in the first nine months of 2009 to Toyota’s 4.0m.

European sales set to tumble

Ford was listed as the world’s third largest manufacturer with 3.7m units produced, just ahead of General Motors with 3.6m units.

As part of its group strategy, VW had predicted it would become the world’s largest manufacturer by 2018, but the success of pan-European scrappage schemes have played into its hands.

Western European car sales have been rising all year, with Germany seeing the greatest gains. Despite the scrappage scheme ending in September, the country saw registrations grow by 26.1 per cent in October.

In the first nine months of the year, VW Group’s sales were up 34 per cent to 622,853 units. This has been helped by the launch of new Golf and Polo models, with sales of these up 54.1 per cent and 56.2 per cent respectively.

Its Skoda brand has enjoyed particular success in Germany so far this year, with Fabia sales up 92.4 per cent in the same period and Octavia sales up 20.4 per cent.


When asked to comment by Autocar, VW said it would be making no formal statement on the matter, but it did confirm the production figures were accurate.


VW je dal v prodajo tudi cel kup novih izvedb raznih modelov - večinoma BlueMotion Technology za Polo, Golf, Golf Plus, Eos, Scirocco, Tiguan, Sharan, Passat, Passat Variant in Passat CC. Cene na linku so verjetno precej podobne našim.

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Napisal/-a esem Če nov 12, 2009 2:03 am

VW bo vpoklical 57000 vozil zaradi možne napake senzorja temperature olja pri DSG menjalnikih!
Gre za star DSG s šestimi prestavami in za te modele: VW Golf, VW Scirocco, VW Eos, VW Jetta, VW Passat, VW Touran, VW Caddy, Audi A3, Audi TT, Seat Leon, Seat Altea, Skoda Octavia in Skoda Superb, izdelane med sept. 2008 in avg. 2009.

Pod vprašajem je samo 2500 vozil, a ker VW ne ve točno katerih, bo preventivno vpoklical vsa potencialna vozila. Napaka senzorja se opazi najprej z utripanjem lučke za prestavo (?), nato z vibracijami, nato z zmanjšanjem obratov in na koncu elektronika odklopi sklopko (kar ni nujno prijetno oz varno).

DSG: maxi richiamo per 57.000 vetture Audi,Volkswagen,Skoda e Seat

Sono 57.000 le vetture del gruppo VW dotate di cambio DSG a 6 marce, che saranno sottoposte ad un maxi richiamo. Nello specifico parliamo di 13 modelli: VW Golf, VW Scirocco, VW Eos, VW Jetta, VW Passat, VW Touran, VW Caddy, Audi A3, Audi TT, Seat Leon, Seat Altea, Skoda Octavia e Skoda Superb prodotte tra il settembre 2008 e agosto 2009 che potrebbero presentare problemi alla trasmissione a doppia frizione.

Il problema interessa effettivamente 2500 sistemi DSG; ma siccome non si può stabilire fra quali dei modelli suddetti verrà registrata “la grana”, il gruppo VW ha deciso di richiamare preventivamete tutte le auto che ne potrebbero essere interessate. Nello specifico la difettosità riguarda il sensore della temperatura dell’olio che in determinate condizioni porterebbe all’apertura involontaria della frizione. Il malfunzionamento si manifesta in principio con il lampeggio dell’indicatore di marcia, poi con vibrazioni della vettura e, infine, da una riduzione dei giri e dall’apertura della frizione.
 
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Napisal/-a esem Če nov 12, 2009 6:23 pm

Več o novi VAGovi modularni platformi, ki bo zamenjala tri obstoječe in iz katere bo izšlo kar 60 modelov, najprej v obliki novega A3 leta 2011.

Autocar je napisal/-a:VW's new platform for 60 models
12 November 2009

Volkswagen is putting the finishing touches to a brand new front-wheel drive platform to be used by up to 60 models from Audi, Seat, Skoda and Volkswagen by the middle of the next decade.

Known as MQB (modularen querbaukasten or modular transverse engine mount architecture), the new structure will replace today’s PQ2, PQ3 and PQ4 platforms. The move, according to Wolfsburg insiders, will help save Volkswagen and its various offshoots up to a billion euros per year by streamlining production and creating greater economies of scale.


The secret to the MQB is the way it provides for a common distance between the front axle and the pedals irrespective of the size of the car it is applied to. VW’s head of R&D, Ulrich Hackenberg, claims this will help reduce the number of front-wheel drive 'engine mounting architectures' used by Volkswagen from 18 today to just two.

The new platform design, which will make its debut on the next Audi A3, due in 2011, allows for a much greater variance in track width, wheelbase and wheel size than with Volkswagen’s existing transverse engine platforms, while allowing for both front drive and four-wheel drive.

“It gives us the possibility to produce models from different segments and in varying sizes using the same basic front-end architecture,” said Hackenberg. “We can go from a typical hatchback to a saloon, cabriolet and SUV with only detailed changes to the size of the wheel carriers.” He said it will be used on every model from the new Lupo all the way through to the next-generation Sharan.

The new architecture should provide between 60 and 70 per cent parts commonality between Volkswagen’s biggest-selling models. And as well as supporting petrol and diesel engines, it has been developed to support models using natural gas, liquid petroleum gas and ethanol. Modifications will also permit the inclusion of hybrid drive.

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Napisal/-a W|zz Če nov 19, 2009 3:01 pm

esem je napisal/-a:VAG je največji!

Kako je to možno, da ena Toyota konkurira celemu VAGu?
Potem bi moglo bit na cestah toliko toyot, kot je vseh vw-jev in ostalih avtov iz vag-a in po novem še porschejev..

Al je to na japonskem tako pogost avto, da se izenači? :)
 
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Napisal/-a Jože20 Če nov 19, 2009 3:07 pm

W|zz je napisal/-a:
esem je napisal/-a:VAG je največji!

Kako je to možno, da ena Toyota konkurira celemu VAGu?
Potem bi moglo bit na cestah toliko toyot, kot je vseh vw-jev in ostalih avtov iz vag-a in po novem še porschejev..

Al je to na japonskem tako pogost avto, da se izenači? :)


Na ZDA in Canado si pozabu.
 
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Napisal/-a esem Če nov 19, 2009 3:24 pm

Poglej prodajo v ZDA lani in raje pomisli, kako da jih je sploh prehitel. Vse zasluge gredo letošnjim slabim Toyotinim rezultatom ter novima najbolj množičnima VW.
 
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Napisal/-a Tattoo- Pe nov 27, 2009 6:53 pm

VW se očitno počasi a vztrajno pripravlja na vstop v F1:

Autosport.com je napisal/-a:VW considering F1 engine supply

Volkswagen is seriously evaluating a move into Formula 1 as an engine supplier from 2012, when new power unit regulations due to be introduced could make the sport attractive enough for the German car maker to get involved. Although F1 has been rocked by the withdrawal of three manufacturers in the last 12 months - with Honda, BMW and Toyota all quitting the sport - the Volkswagen Group believes that the sport is actually becoming more attractive with the way rules are heading.

The German car manufacturer's representative Hans-Joachim Stuck says his company would not be interested in becoming a partner with a team - as was rumoured several years ago when it was linked with a deal to buy into Red Bull Racing - but would be up for supplying engines. However, Stuck has made it clear that the possibility to supply power units to a number of outfits, especially if there was a 'world engine', would be enough to attract Volkswagen into F1.

"If you're the world's largest manufacturer is natural that we're thinking about [Formula 1], but not before 2012," Stuck told AUTOSPORT about Volkswagen's F1 ambitions. "We're looking for innovative things, and Formula 1 is the pinnacle of motorsport. Two years ago there was some talk that Volkswagen is going to buy the Red Bull F1 team, which we didn't need to buy. Why should we stick with one team if we can give our engines to more teams? "If you buy Red Bull and Adrian Newey wants to go flying or fishing, the team is not successful any more. Look at BMW. They bought this multi-million dollar wind tunnel and a supercomputer and they now close the doors. Building an engine and providing it to a team is the best way."

Stuck claims Formula 1's return to expanded grids, and low-cost regulations, has put the sport firmly on Volkswagen's radar. "Now it's amazing; Formula 1 goes the right way," said Stuck. "Many manufacturers have pulled out, which I think is a great deal, because we have manufacturers that we don't know for how long they will do it. "They should become engine manufacturers and then lease the engine, sell the engine or give it to somebody. Then you lose all the hassle with teams, wind tunnels, engineers, you know. "It's like Formula 1 in my days. We had March, we had Lotus, and we had Ford engines. Then Renault came in as engine manufacturer, with a formidable engine. This was perfect. "I followed Formula 1 for the last seven years with BMW and I always asked myself on the grid, with only 20 cars, what if we could have 30 cars? Now we're getting back to this. "We have three more teams next year, 26 cars, and by having a global engine, which is good in cost and reliable, we can have 30 cars on the grid."

The Volkswagen Group has recently enjoyed great success in racing with its different brands. Besides its multiple Le Mans wins with Audi, its WTCC titles with Seat in the past two years and its Dakar victory this year, Volkswagen also powered drivers with VW engines to the British and German F3 titles this, rounding out the season with victory in last weekend's Macau Grand Prix.
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Napisal/-a PRODRIVE Pe nov 27, 2009 7:04 pm

pa za rally se tud pise da naj bi pa le vstopili,model Scirocco
CARPE IMPREZAM
 
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Napisal/-a lizard Pe nov 27, 2009 10:37 pm

To njihovo pripravljanje na vstop v F1 traja že, hmm nekaj mojih življenij :), bi pa bilo zanimivo če se enkrat končno zgodi. Nov nasprotnik na obzorju? Vprašanje če bom do takrat še spremljal F1, ker je vsako leto hujše (beri: dolgočasneješe in slabše).
 
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Napisal/-a W|zz Po nov 30, 2009 8:48 am

esem je napisal/-a:Poglej prodajo v ZDA lani in raje pomisli, kako da jih je sploh prehitel. Vse zasluge gredo letošnjim slabim Toyotinim rezultatom ter novima najbolj množičnima VW.
Pa res. Hvala. Sem sklepal po svojih obiskih zda, kjer nisem dobil takega vtisa o množični prisotnosti toyot. Sem mislil da ji tam lexus krade precejšen delež in da zaradi tega kaj takega ne bi bilo možno :)
 
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Napisal/-a vojkostar Po nov 30, 2009 9:49 am

glede na to da je tema VAG in PRIHODNJOST se raje držite te teme in napišite kaj pametnega v stilu novih motorjev itd........ ne pa kvasit o nekem trgu ki nima veze z temo
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