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50 najslabših avtov vseh časov - po Time-u

Objavljeno: Ne sep 09, 2007 2:26 am
Napisal/-a esem
Po izboru revije Time je vrstni red takle (po x-dekadah)

The 50 Worst Cars of All Time
Complete List

1899-1939

* 1899 Horsey Horseless
* 1909 Ford Model T
* 1911 Overland OctoAuto
* 1913 Scripps-Booth Bi-Autogo
* 1920 Briggs and Stratton Flyer
* 1933 Fuller Dymaxion
* 1934 Chrysler/Desoto Airflow

1940-1959

* 1949 Crosley Hotshot
* 1956 Renault Dauphine
* 1957 King Midget Model III
* 1957 Waterman Aerobile
* 1958 Ford Edsel
* 1958 Lotus Elite
* 1958 MGA Twin Cam
* 1958 Zunndapp Janus

1960-1974

* 1961 Amphicar
* 1961 Corvair
* 1966 Peel Trident
* 1970 AMC Gremlin
* 1970 Triumph Stag
* 1971 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Two-Door Hardtop
* 1971 Ford Pinto
* 1974 Jaguar XK-E V12 Series III

1975-1989

* 1975 Bricklin SV1
* 1975 Morgan Plus 8 Propane
* 1975 Triumph TR7
* 1975 Trabant
* 1976 Aston Martin Lagonda
* 1976 Chevy Chevette
* 1978 AMC Pacer
* 1980 Corvette 305 "California"
* 1980 Ferrari Mondial 8
* 1981 Cadillac Fleetwood V-8-6-4
* 1981 De Lorean DMC-12
* 1982 Cadillac Cimarron
* 1982 Camaro Iron Duke
* 1984 Maserati Biturbo
* 1985 Mosler Consulier GTP
* 1985 Yugo GV
* 1986 Lamborghini LM002

1990-Present

* 1995 Ford Explorer
* 1997 GM EV1
* 1997 Plymouth Prowler
* 1998 Fiat Multipla
* 2000 Ford Excursion
* 2001 Jaguar X-Type
* 2001 Pontiac Aztek
* 2002 BMW 7-series
* 2003 Hummer H2
* 2004 Chevy SSR

Več - tudi linki na posamezne avte z obrazložitvijo ocene - tu http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/ ... 45,00.html


Seveda je lista "rahlo" ameriška, komentarji znajo biti "ameriško" nevedni (čeprav za Pulitzerjevega nagrajenca skoraj sramotno nevedni (The 50 Worst Cars of All Time - On the 50th anniversary of the Ford Edsel, TIME and Dan Neil, Pulitzer Prize-winning automotive critic and syndicated columnist for the Los Angeles Times, look at the greatest lemons of the automotive industry), a obenem še vedno zanimivi, npr Yugo

1985 Yugo GV

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Malcolm Bricklin, he of the Bricklin SV1, wouldn't be satisfied until he had forced every American to walk to work. To that end, in 1985, he began importing the Yugo GV, which turned out to be the Mona Lisa of bad cars. Built in Soviet-bloc Yugoslavia, the Yugo had the distinct feeling of something assembled at gunpoint. Interestingly, in a car where "carpet" was listed as a standard feature, the Yugo had a rear-window defroster — reportedly to keep your hands warm while you pushed it. The engines went ka-blooey, the electrical system — such as it was — would sizzle, and things would just fall off. Yugo. Or not.


ali Trabant

1975 Trabant

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This is the car that gave Communism a bad name. Powered by a two-stroke pollution generator that maxed out at an ear-splitting 18 hp, the Trabant was a hollow lie of a car constructed of recycled worthlessness (actually, the body was made of a fiberglass-like Duroplast, reinforced with recycled fibers like cotton and wood). A virtual antique when it was designed in the 1950s, the Trabant was East Germany's answer to the VW Beetle — a "people's car," as if the people didn't have enough to worry about. Trabants smoked like an Iraqi oil fire, when they ran at all, and often lacked even the most basic of amenities, like brake lights or turn signals. But history has been kind to the Trabi. Thousands of East Germans drove their Trabants over the border when the Wall fell, which made it a kind of automotive liberator. Once across the border, the none-too-sentimental Ostdeutschlanders immediately abandoned their cars. Ich bin Junk!


Poglejmo še Lagondo

1976 Aston Martin Lagonda

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In the disco days of the 1970s, even supercars were cocaine-thin. Meet the Aston Martin Lagonda, a four-door exotic that lived on dinner mints and hot water. Designed by AM penman William Towns — undoubtedly wearing a very large cravat at the time — the Lagonda was as beautiful a car as ever resembled a pencil box. Mechanically, it was a catastrophe, Aston Martin's Dunkirk. The company decided to build the Lagonda with a brace of cutting-edge, computer-driven electronics and cathode-ray displays, which would have been very impressive if any of them ever worked. NASA couldn't have built this car, much less the heirs to Joseph Lucas, the British electronics' famous "Prince of Darkness." Still, I'd kill to have one of these cars, and the O-scope and multi-meter to fix it.


and last, but not least

2002 BMW 7-series(naturlich)

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The Munich company's flagship sedan was nothing less than everything the company knew about car building, and that was quite a lot. Perfectly constructed, astonishingly fast and utterly besotted with technology, the big, gracious 7-series had but two flaws: The first was something called iDrive, a rotary dial/joystick controller situated on the center console, through which drivers adjusted dozens of vehicle settings, from climate, navigation and audio functions to things like the sound of the door chime. The reason for iDrive and similar systems is that designers were running out of room for switches and instruments. The trouble was that the iDrive was hard to work. Damn near impossible, in fact. Drivers spent many hair-pulling minutes driving to figure out how to add radio presets, for example, or turn up the air conditioning. When confronted with complaints, BMW engineers said, with barely disguised contempt: Ze system werks pervectly. Dis is no problem. Since 2002, BMW has gradually improved iDrive to make it more intuitive, but it's still a pain. The other flaw? The silly bubble butt, called the Bangle Bustle, after lead designer Chris Bangle.


Če bi avtor vedel, kako orgazmičen je bil šklepet ventilov Trabija ali Jugota za prenekaterega vzhodnega (sovjetskega) (o)mladinca, seveda ne bi takih legend postavljal ob bok nekemu BMW 7, kljub zaslugam in trudu v obliki I-driva (ali Bangle-a).

Naredimo našo listo najslabših?

Objavljeno: Ne sep 09, 2007 8:43 am
Napisal/-a Eazy-O
Ma, tile prepotentni Amerikanci s svojimi pompoznimi spiski slabih avtom mi grejo počasi že na k***c. Noter so samo ameriške ali pa svetovno znane zadeve, dejanskega raziskovanja pa nobenega. No, še kak obskuren mini avto se najde.

Sploh pa takele cvetke pokažejo kolk ma gospod v glavi:

...Built in Soviet-bloc Yugoslavia.


Brezveze.

Objavljeno: Ne sep 09, 2007 8:49 am
Napisal/-a f.taunus
Na seznamu je kar nekaj avtomobilov, kateri so (na nekem drugem seznamu) razglašeni kot največje legende v zgodovini avtomobilizma.

Objavljeno: Ne sep 09, 2007 10:49 am
Napisal/-a IcEm4n
Dokaj podobno (sicer se gre o 50 najgrših avtomobilih) lahko preberete v trenutni številki Avto Fokusa.

Objavljeno: Ne sep 09, 2007 12:04 pm
Napisal/-a Somebody_new
koji k.... nek američan piše o evropejskih avtih ko nima pojma o njih pa ne vem zakaj bi yugo pa bmw 7 bila najslabša res ne vem zakaj!

Objavljeno: Ne sep 09, 2007 12:21 pm
Napisal/-a Templar
Jaz ugibam da je tale novinar nek kvazi yuppie ki živi v NY in sploh nikoli ni imel avtomobila, kajšele vozniškega ker se povsod vozi z TAXIji ali podzmeno oz dolge relacije z letalom.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 8:57 am
Napisal/-a Nixxon
Yep, za tistga je Chevrolet Caprice v rumeni barvi s pleksisteklom med voznikom in potniki zadaj ter spermo vtrto v zadnje sedeže res vrhunec avtomobilske industrije. Beden članek, out of touch with reality. :roll:

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 9:04 am
Napisal/-a DaDek
:lol: :lol:

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 9:14 am
Napisal/-a dskrab
Kr neki. Sam YUGO je bil pa res zakon.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 9:25 am
Napisal/-a DaDek
dskrab je napisal/-a:Kr neki. Sam YUGO je bil pa res zakon.


ja v jugi, amerika je druga zgodba.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 10:26 am
Napisal/-a RED_line
seznam je glup, kot je glup tisti ki ga je naredil.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 10:45 am
Napisal/-a adamovc
RED_line je napisal/-a:seznam je glup, kot je glup tisti ki ga je naredil.


A ni vedno tako?

Tudi tvoja izjava je tako neumna (ali pametna), kot si ti neumen (ali pameten)!

Dejte se prosim izogibat osebnim napadom, pač seznam je tak, kakršen je, ni neko znansteno delo in kot tako tudi nikoli ni bilo mišljeno. Namenjeno je pač krogu bralcev te revije, ki so večinom iz ZDA in ki pač poznajo avtomobile, ki jih omenja. Kaj je to slab avto pa je tako nemogoče določiti, saj najslabši avti sploh ne pridejo na trg. Za slabe zato pogosto obveljajo tisti, ki veliko obetajo (ali so tako predstavljeni), potem pa zaostanejo za temi pričakovanji.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 10:47 am
Napisal/-a Kritik
Ej.... Yugo-ta mi pa ne bodo žalil.... sploh pa ne Američani, ki še sami sebe ne najdejo na zemljevidu... Yugič je bil za tiste čase čist uredu avto...

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 10:50 am
Napisal/-a [SlasH]
Men se zdi pa kar zabaven opis teh vozil.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 11:17 am
Napisal/-a adamovc
Kritik je napisal/-a:Ej.... Yugo-ta mi pa ne bodo žalil.... sploh pa ne Američani, ki še sami sebe ne najdejo na zemljevidu... Yugič je bil za tiste čase čist uredu avto...


Pozabljate, da je bil Yugo čist uredu avto ZA NAS, ne pa za ostali razviti svet, ki si je lahko privoščil veliko boljše izdelke. Primerjaj recimo Hyundai Pony-a in Yugota, ki sta bila neposredna konkurenta, pa boš videl, o kakšnih ogromnih razlikah med avtomobili in "avtomobili" govorimo.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 11:58 am
Napisal/-a [SlasH]
adamovc je napisal/-a:
Kritik je napisal/-a:Ej.... Yugo-ta mi pa ne bodo žalil.... sploh pa ne Američani, ki še sami sebe ne najdejo na zemljevidu... Yugič je bil za tiste čase čist uredu avto...


Pozabljate, da je bil Yugo čist uredu avto ZA NAS, ne pa za ostali razviti svet, ki si je lahko privoščil veliko boljše izdelke. Primerjaj recimo Hyundai Pony-a in Yugota, ki sta bila neposredna konkurenta, pa boš videl, o kakšnih ogromnih razlikah med avtomobili in "avtomobili" govorimo.


Točno tko. Za nas je bil uredu, ker dosti izbire itak ni bilo.
Se spomnim, ko je stric kupoval Yuga. Na voljo je bilo ene 5 primerkov in pri vsakem je nekaj falilo. Vzel je model GVX (če se prav spomnim) in mu je zelo hitro pričel rjaveti.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 12:12 pm
Napisal/-a Kritik
@adamovc, [slash]: Sej sem dopisal za tiste čase.... Moj foter ga je imel Koral 45, 4 leta pa razen malo rje ni bilo z njim nič narobe, je delal kot urica..... ;) Gre mi na živce samo to, da se Ameri delajo nekaj pametne..... samo to.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 12:40 pm
Napisal/-a adamovc
Kritik je napisal/-a:@adamovc, [slash]: Sej sem dopisal za tiste čase....


In zaradi tega sem te popravil - avto tudi za tisti čas ni bil dober, če si živel na področjih, ki so si lahko privoščila precej boljše izdelke, ki so v tem času že množično obstajali. Seveda so tudi v tistih časih obstajali še slabši avtomobili, ki pa tega tudi niso skrivali, a samo z Yugotom so poskušali osvojiti ameriški trg in pri tem klavrno propadli, saj so na koncu trgovci praktično morali plačati, da so ga kupci odpeljali iz salona. V konkurenci velikih se šele vidi, kako dober oziroma slab si in prav pri Yugotu je bilo to najbolj očitno.

Objavljeno: Po sep 10, 2007 1:58 pm
Napisal/-a FBR
Tipična ameriška bolanost. Naj najprej pred sabo pometejo.

OT:
Če ste le malo brali teletekst v zadnjem času ste lahko zasledili, da je ameriška vlada izdala opozorilo pred potovanjem v Slovenijo. Vodo naj bi lahko pili le doboro prekuhano (ledu v pijačah naj se izogibajo), zdravstvenega sistema baje nimamo in je zato potrebno se zdraviti v tujini, bolezni lahko stakneš za vogalom in še in še....sramotno za tako perfektno nacijo.

Z padcem amerike bomo vsi profitirali. Slava temu dnevu.