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5-GT ALPINA???

Objavljeno: Po jun 07, 2004 3:08 pm
Napisal/-a _VeNoM_
Se splača ja ili ne?
kok je kej to močno specifikacije kej ve kdo o peljanju tega avta???


lp venom :-P 8)

Re: 5-GT ALPINA???

Objavljeno: Po jun 07, 2004 3:39 pm
Napisal/-a Omelo
_VeNoM_ je napisal/-a:Se splača ja ili ne?
kok je kej to močno specifikacije kej ve kdo o peljanju tega avta???


lp venom :-P 8)


Če se ne motm se je enkrat o tem že nekej govorilo. Ne ne splača se, kr se ti lahko sredi vožnje zaflambira :)

Objavljeno: To jun 08, 2004 10:55 am
Napisal/-a nebivedu
Glede vožnje ti lahko pa razložim vse, sam ne tukaj, kje ob kaki pijači, ker je preveč za pisat. Lahko pa si pogledaš na tole stranhttp://membres.lycos.fr/r5gt/gtt/gttintro.htm
Kar se pa tiče avta, bo pa tole pomoje dovolj.

začetki petke

1972: The R5 model is born. Different models would be produced, and the car would become a real best-seller, but the sport version, with a turbo attached to the 1397cc block came with the R5 Alpine Turbo (110 bhp).
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1980: The R5 Turbo starts being produced. It was a rear-driven mid-engined monster based on the R5 with enormous rear arches and the same block (but with 165bhp this time). The beast was a prototype (including fuel injection) that ruled the world of rallies with Jean Ragnotti, Carlos Sainz and others at the wheel. Brutal performances (0-100kmh in 6.4s) for a car out of the world it lived. Only a few were sold to a few privilegees!
1982: The R5 Turbo 2, the second generation, with some upgrades, arrives (185 bhp). Produced as a natural continuation to the rally successes, once prepared to race it could obtain over 360bhp from the same block!
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1984: The Maxi 5 ends with the monster history. Sold only to homologate the Gr. B rally car, and using all the technology available at the moment, could reach more than 400bhp using 1527cc. The end of the Gr. B meant the death of these machines development.
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The phase 1

1985: The sport model of the SuperFive, the GT Turbo, is born. Renault develops the phase 1 Renault 5 GT Turbo, with its 115 bhp for 860 kg and its Garrett T2 turbocharger blowing the eternal 1397cc block. It was a nice engineering work to adapt the SuperFive to the horsepower it had to cope with, due to its nature of light small car, and so we have an absolutely full engine bay, lots of hoses and wires, lots of special components (they _must_ be special, because Renault spare parts tend to be much more expensive when you mention it's for a GTT)... but the final result was a wild machine that started to make its own legend...
In the very beginning, the car was distributed only into the 'Coupe' version, that was sold only to competitors into the Renault Cup (Coupe means cup in french, as you'll have guessed). Those cars had some peculiarities, but in Spain 'Copa Turbo' (Copa means cup in spanish) was almost a synonymous of 'GT Turbo' because there was an old R5 model that was also called 'Copa' and the GT looked like its natural continuation.
This is how a Cup version car looked like:
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The phase 2

1986: From May (in France), Renault starts using the water-cooled T2 turbocharger. This drove to a longer life of the turbo, because turbo reliability (due to improper use of the turbo!) was a common problem until these ones arrived...
1988: The major renewing is done, producing this car:
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The main changes introduced with the phase 2 were:

New front grille, with Renault logo at the left side, new front bumper, with different low side, and slightly different rear arch trims. This 'great' aerodynamical changes made them claim the Cx was now 0.35 instead of 0.36...
New longer central console. Additional equipment, like the electrically-operated windows, was now directly fitted.
New alloy 'star' type wheels.(I bought the car without the central wheel covers, so you'll have to imagine them in the picture).
Changed carburettor type and adjustments, giving now 120 bhp.
RE209 ignition module, instead of RE208, giving 500 more r.p.m. It was positioned on the bulkhead, on the other side of the firewall, to avoid the excessive heating that came from being over the turbo.
Modified front suspension strut, with an inclined top mounting to reduce the steering axis inclination. It was made not to let the car eat the wide tyres unevenly, but it had a side effect: it doesn't allow the steering wheel to return to straight position so easily, specially if you're accelerating hardly.
New cooling system arrangement, now including inlet manifold cooling and degassing unit, to reduce overheating, another known problem experienced in phase 1 cars.
Small changes into the antipercolation fan system.
1991: Renault launches the Clio 16 valves, and gradually stops selling GTTs.
The last limited edition of GT Turbos was produced in electric blue ('Bleu nuit' in french), in honour of the '89 Gr.N title obtained by Alain Oreille driving a GT Turbo, and is also known as Raider. They came with phase 2 wheels painted in the body color and full equipment.
It was the end of the turbo age, leading to more progressive and civilized engines, of those that anyone can drive without problems (I love that kind of problems...). As you know, the beginning of the 16 valve age.

Anyway, admitting the Clio 16v had a technically superior engine (it finally ends with the 1397cc block use), and a greater top speed, it never reached the GTT acceleration, and, of course, never gave that turbo boost kick that makes you adrenalize so strongly!

Objavljeno: Če jun 10, 2004 11:38 am
Napisal/-a enarf
it could obtain over 360bhp from the same block!

ould reach more than 400bhp using 1527cc



8) , yeah!

Offtopic:

Mami, to bi jst meu! Venom, ce jo dobis me moraš obvezno peljat kakšen krog!! :D

Objavljeno: Ne dec 26, 2004 10:20 pm
Napisal/-a sablač
ja to so bli cajti ko sm jaz vozo to raketico
v prvi 90 km/h najbol moro pa rikverc 95km/h ja prav ste prebral rikverc

Re: 5-GT ALPINA???

Objavljeno: Ne dec 26, 2004 10:36 pm
Napisal/-a Dariooo
_VeNoM_ je napisal/-a:Se splača ja ili ne?
kok je kej to močno specifikacije kej ve kdo o peljanju tega avta???


lp venom :-P 8)

a si nameravas nabit ta avto?...kaj uno 5-ko ko ima odzadaj linijski motor??....in po moznosti 4x4?...al niso te imele 4x4?...
a se jih da se take dobit??..al ne vec?
LP Dario

Objavljeno: Ne dec 26, 2004 11:00 pm
Napisal/-a metallic
Pomoje se ti ne splača, razen če nimaš banke doma. Avto boš drago kupu (ene hude petke, najbrž dirkalne, se v švablandiji prodajajo za 100k+ :shock: :shock: ), avto bi bil verjetno bl bogi, obnova bi te pršla celo bogastvo in motor je bil izredno občutljiv na pregrevanje. Sicer sem to prebral na enmu forumu, tako da govorim bl na blef, ampak verjetno ni daleč od resnice. :-P

Objavljeno: Po dec 27, 2004 5:55 pm
Napisal/-a monster_d
TEma je stara pol leta :D

Objavljeno: Po dec 27, 2004 6:07 pm
Napisal/-a metallic
Sploh nč pogledu... :oops: