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Napisal/-a kinkyllama So jan 02, 2010 10:20 pm

lancia hf je napisal/-a:
dejcc je napisal/-a:Za kolk €€ približno bi mi potem kdo to naredo pa da bi blo dokaj varno da nebi šou avto v luft


Če ti kaj pomaga je to "zastonj" glede na to da se ti bo povprečna poraba dvignila za 60-80%. Pri men se je poraba povečala iz 9L na skoraj 18L. Zdaj pa pomisli če se splača.
Govora je v uporabi tega, ne pa za na tekmovanja.



tole s povratnim vodom? imaš ventil?

tebi se je recimo poraba zvišala iz 9 na 18l (a si se kar okrog vozu?)..to se pravi, da je tlak bencina narasu vsaj za za 100%... kaj pa tistim, ki bo samo za 20%
po tem je pač črpalka bila sposobna vstvarit tolikšen tlak...
koliko časa?
očitno imaš res odlične injektorje...
kaj pa katalizator?
kaj pa olje?
isprani valji? motor zna prav lepo ribnit že pri višjem rejtiju
kaj pa hladen avto...bencin kar iz auspuha teče oz. ne zalije?

tebi je uspelo...bojim se da le ni širše sprejemljiva rešitev

me pa zanima kako si ta bencin sploh prižgal na koncu izpuha
 
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Napisal/-a lancia hf So jan 02, 2010 10:39 pm

Kot sam elektronski vbrizg goriva vedno "pripravi" vbrizg goriva na 100% moči avtomobila, in če daš samo pol plina gre ostalih 50% goriva v povratni vod,in gre nazaj v rezervar (bolj znano pri dizlih "iberlauf") Če pa ta vod zapreš, steče pa vse to preko motorja v izpuh, in potem se to v samem izpušnem sistemu vse skupaj vname od vročine........ Cel postopek je bolje v živo videti.
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Napisal/-a kinkyllama So jan 02, 2010 10:48 pm

oprosti...vendar ti tole ni najbolj jasno

tudi pri 100 procentnem gasu lahko gre še vedno pol (nekaj ga mora it) goriva nazaj v rezervar

odvisno samo od pretoka črpalke

vže v izpuhu...od kje pa kisik? laputa je zaprta na pol?
temperatura plinov bi morala biti recimo 800 stopinj celzija na vstopu v atmosfero, kar bo na serijskem izpuhu nemogoče doseči
Zadnjič spremenil kinkyllama, dne So jan 02, 2010 10:52 pm, skupaj popravljeno 1 krat.
 
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Napisal/-a lancia hf So jan 02, 2010 10:49 pm

kinkyllama je napisal/-a:vže v izpuhu...od kje pa kisik?
temperatura plinov bi morala biti recimo 800 stopinj celzija na vstopu v atmosfero, kar bo na serijskem izpuhu nemogoče doseči


Preberi za pikicam ;) Saj je to teško razložiti
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Napisal/-a kinkyllama So jan 02, 2010 10:53 pm

sem popravil zgoraj

in zaključujem, da ne bo kaj narobi

;)
 
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Napisal/-a lancia hf So jan 02, 2010 11:02 pm

kinkyllama je napisal/-a:sem popravil zgoraj

in zaključujem, da ne bo kaj narobi

;)


Je bolje, ker vidim da si malo pomešal elekrtonski uplinjač, oznaka IE, in direktni vbrizg oznaka I.
Saj delujata povsem drugače.
+ zrak, ki ga more od nekje dobiti, da nedela podtlaka ko spustiš plin ITD.....
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Napisal/-a kinkyllama So jan 02, 2010 11:16 pm

po tejle definiciji bi potem na pol gasu avto še vedno polno vlekel


zrak je, bencin je 100%


boljš da res zaključva...pa brez zamere če slučajno ne bi imel prav
 
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Napisal/-a lancia hf So jan 02, 2010 11:38 pm

kinkyllama je napisal/-a:po tejle definiciji bi potem na pol gasu
avto še vedno polno vlekel
zrak je, bencin je 100%
boljš da res zaključva...pa brez zamere če slučajno ne bi imel prav


To je pa spet drugo, ki pa spada že pod navor ;)
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Napisal/-a ule Ne jan 03, 2010 3:03 am

Za tale kit so navodila naslednja

Always be careful not to short out any wires connected to the flame control module box by grounding a positive wire or touching a positive wire to a ground on the box. All boxes are tested prior to shipping for proper performance. NOTE: Unlike all other kits on the market, this kit does not use any automotive coils and can be damaged if connected to automotive coils. This kit comes complete with everything you need to install the kit and shoot flames.

The way the Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. flamethrower kit works by using a 3-pole normally off push-button that when activated, temporarily breaks the circuit powering the engines ignition coil/s and simultaneously supplies a 12 volt pulse to a spark plug/s in the exhaust pipe/s using a specially calibrated digital circuit. This in turn results in the unburned gas-air mixture passing out to the exhaust, where the spark plugs act as igniters throwing a mostly blue with some yellow and orange flame out the exhaust pipe. Shooting flames can be done at a stand still or while driving. So if you activate it while engine braking, you will have flames for a pretty good ways. At a stand still you will have flames for a few seconds while the engine winds down until you let off the button just before the engine shuts off completely. Using this flame kit requires a little practice and should only be used for off-road purposes and never on public streets or property.

1. Mount the Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. flame control module box/s within four feet of the tip of your exhaust such as in the trunk or under the rear of the vehicle. If you want to mount the flame control module box further than four feet from the tips of the exhaust you will need additional low profile flame cable ( available from Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. )

2. Driil a 9/16 inch hole about 8-10 inches from the end of the tip ( note: this is for automobiles, see motorcycle instructions for specific placement of holes/spark plug holder nut/s). Next, weld the spark plug holder nut/s in exhaust pipe/s. If you do not want to weld them in you can insert the plug into the hole and then screw the spark plug holder nut on from inside the exhaust pipe using an open end wrench. Never install on bottom of pipe, always on the side or top. Moisture and water will run out the pipe and foul your plugs if you put them on the bottom. Make sure to tighten it good and periodically check it to make sure the exhaust has not loosened it.

3. Install the specialized long core spark plug/s. To start out do not increase the gap. Changing the gap does affect the flames. Experiment for the best flames. If you experience popping or backfire open the gap wider and/or let off the button before you get the motor wound down too much. If your spark goes away then the gap is too wide and you will need to decrease the width of the gap.

4. Crimp on a blue ring terminal to one end of your 4 foot length low profile flame cable/s. Unscrew the nipple cap on the top of the spark plug/s, attach the ring terminal end, and screw the nipple cap back on the plug to hold the ring terminal in place. Use some pliers to tighten it good. If you want to use some trick spark plug wires in place of the black 4 foot piece of low profile flame cable/s you can.

5. Now crimp on a female spade connector to the other end of the flame cable and connect it to the spade on top of the blue mini coil on the flame control module/s.

6. Connect the black wire wire coming out of the flame control module/s to a good solid ground on the bike chassis.

( Good solid grounds are important.)

7. Mount the Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. momentary push button somewhere easily reachable from the drivers seat. The dash or a console is usually an ideal place. The button once installed should kill the motor when pressed and simultaneously ignite the spark plugs in the exhaust pipe/s. If you vehicle has electronic fuel injection or a non-standard distributor/coil set up like on most 1988-2003 vehicles you will need to refer to steps 8-12. If your vehicle has a carburetor with a regular coil distributor setup like most vehicles older then 1988 refer to steps 9-12.

8. Now you will want to find the wire/s that send 12 volts to your engines coil/ ignition system. This will take some testing using a 12 volt light tester. Your engines distributor will have an external or internal coil. Call you local auto parts store and ask them to look up you cars specs with regards to its coil system( you can also contact any aftermarket ignition parts company like msd, accel etc. They can sometimes even fax you or tell you the exact wire you are looking for on your engine). Once you find out what you have it will be easier to narrow down the wire/s. Locate your external coil if you have one and begin testing each wire for 12 volts when the key is on. If you have an internal coil on your distributor it will take a little more foot work. The distributor will have an electrical plug on it with several wires. You will need to test each wire to determine which one feeds the internal coil. Your objective is to find the 12 volt wire/s that power your engines ignition system. Make sure you find the right wire or else you may think you are disabling the engines fire just because the engine is shutting down when in reality you might just be shutting off power to some other component. This will cause you to not have any flames.. So double check this part of the installation.

9. Cut the ignition wire in half. This will be the wire hooked up to your engines coil under the hood. This will be the (+) side of the coil and will have 12 volts going to it when the car is running, no volts when car is turned off. Each automobile is slightly different so you may have to check the wire with a light tester if you are unsure. Look on the side of the switch to see the number beside each terminal for the next 3 steps.

10. The half you cut, coming from the coil (or HEI) should be connected to terminal NC ( the terminal on the top of the "Got Flames" Flame Switch ).

11. The other half of the wire you cut (should have 12 volts hot when key is turned on) should be connected to terminal COM , the terminal on the bottom of the Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. momentary push button.

12. Connect the red wire from the flame control module/s to terminal number NO( middle terminal) on the momentary push button. If installing two modules for dual exhaust connect both red wires from each flame control module together using a butt connector and run a wire from the butt connector to a terminal number 4 (the middle terminal)

Quick Test:

Turn key on without starting the motor, and hold the Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. momentary push button down briefly, and you should see the spark plug/s buzz bright blue arcs. A bad ground is usually the problem if you don't see the spark plugs arcing bright blue. If you experience backfires then usually you have an exhaust leak somewhere or your plugs are not gapped enough or you are letting off the accelerator before you let off the momentary push button. Make sure when you are shooting flames that you hold the gas pedal down until just after you let off the button and the engine catches on. If you take your foot off the pedal then let off the button you might get backfires. If you still get backfires try gapping your plugs in small increments up to .065. until they stop. If you still get backfires then take your ride to a muffler shop and have them check for leaks. Leaks will do it every time If possible we recommend using a special muffler called "SMITHY'S MUFFLERS". They feature a Hi-Flo louvered core design for maximum sound control and induce a swirl action for efficient dispersal of exhaust gasses through the pack. It is essentially a glasspack, but if you want the most efficient muffler and flames I would use Smithy's. Never use in a garage or closed in area. Never use within 100 feet of flammable substances such as gas stations or gas cans. Never use while anyone is behind the vehicle. Each car is different and may take some practice to get the flame throwing art down. Make sure you warm the car up to operating temperature or you will not get any flames. Rev the motor up and down rapidly and when at the top of the rev push the button and pump the gas pedal quickly or hold it down. Let go of the button just before the engine completely dies and then try it again. Never use the "Got Flames" flame box on public roads. Only for recreational offroad use. Always be safe and have a fire extinguisher near by. Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. shall not be liable for accidents, property damage, or bodily injury directly or indirectly from any defect or non-defect in it's product(s) or from products use. Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. makes no warranty expressed or implied that any of our products are merchantable or fit for any particular use or purpose. All photos, instructions, and diagrams are copyrighted and must not be used without the expressed written permission ofHot Licks Exhaust Inc. Copyright 2006 Hot Licks Exhaust Inc. By purchasing and accepting this product you have agreed to the above terms.
 
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Re: flame kit

Napisal/-a aereo132 So apr 19, 2014 5:58 pm

od strica iz nemcije sem dobil kit za metanje ognja
http://www.constella.co.uk/flamerkitpic%20003.jpg podoben temu

me zanima kako to deluje glede na to da se namontira svecka skoraj na konec izpuha
ali je kaksen ucinek ?


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