Doktor je napisal/-a:

esem je napisal/-a:Tudi FIAT se je v zadnjih letih precej spremenil. "Makaronarstva" že nekaj časa ni več - kljub Berlusconiju (ali prav zato - ker jim ne gre preveč na roko).
Najboljši dokaz za to so novi izdelki, ki bi jih lahko bilo z nakupom Opla več - za deljene in s tem manjše razvojne investicije. Skoraj bolj vprašljivo je sodelovanje s Chryslerjem.

Verjamem v takšno prepričanje ... če živiš 100 km od Italije.

Dnevno živeti, poslovati ... z Italijani, je nekaj drugega.

Tudi kvaliteta FIAT-ov je na praktično enaki ravni - glede na konkurenco.

LP

Doktor je napisal/-a:Dnevno živeti, poslovati ... z Italijani, je nekaj drugega.

goranTNT je napisal/-a:Menim da ima v tem trenutku Opel precej boljso prodajno paleto. Corsa je že nekaj časa med najbolje prodajanimi, nova Astra je takorekoč predvrati, Insignia pa je postala najbolje prodajan model v srednjem razredu, kar je fenomenalno glede na to kako težko se prodajajo ne premium znamke v srednjem razredu in glede na to kako se je prodajala vectra.

moj-avto je napisal/-a:Glede da FIAT kupuje Opel ima denar. Po zdravi kmečki logiki je pač tako.
FIAT je odkupil tovarno v Kragujevcu, bivšo Zastavo v katero mora še dosti denarja vložit za posodobitev proizvodnje FIATA punta. Opel pa je itak že znamka, ki ima nek soliden trg in solidno ime, tako, da FIATU gre nakup kot voda na mlin.
Pač v poslih je tako, da če se hoče nek denar zaslužiti je treba iti tudi v stroške in investicijo. Pri tem pa tudi reskirati.
Italijani niso Slovenci, da kupijo neko firmo z po možnosti z tujim denarjem z tem namenom, da jo uničijo in nato iz nje poberejo čim več denarja in si stlačiti v žep, delavce pa spraviti na cesto. Za dejanja pa ne odgovovarja noben za nič.
Italijanska industrija je resna stvar, gre za izkušeno kapitalistično državo, ki ve kako se da zaslužiti.
V če bi take neumnosti počeli naši tajkuni v Italiji jim bi država zaplenila vse kar imajo, dokler se ne dokaže kaj je bilo zasluženo in kaj pokradeno. In ne samo njim tudi sorodnikom. Stroške, kazni in škodo pa bi plačali iz lastnega žepa. Ni, ni, zajebancije pri zahodnih sosedih.
Pri nas nek bivši komunist se spreobrne v kapitalista pa pokrade narod.
FIAT je v 70. in 80. letih dokazal, da lahko postane na vrhu avtomobilske industrije kot proizvajalec in te čase očitno hoče tudi ponovit. Recesija je pač neka prilika za njih.

According to the plan Fiat, Lancia brand will be 'deleted in favor of the Opel, told Automobilwoche someone close to Marchionne. The Saab will be merged with Chrysler for the production of models and sports decappottabili.Allo same time, interviewed by 'Bild am Sonntag', Marchionne said that Fiat and the '''crucial''that''Opel remains a mark strong''.''The plan provides for making our activities' in the car, which will be free of debt,''in this merger.

martin_krpan je napisal/-a:A je to res? Fiatovci naj bi nemškim novinarjem povedali, da bo v primeru nakupa Opla znamka Lancia ukinjena. Saab naj bi se združil s Chryslerjem. To je podobno mojem razmišljanju.

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Fiat: confirmed today the car low cost
Published: Friday, September 25th, 2009 by Fabio Sciarra in: Fiat cars ads

Fiat has confirmed today that it will produce a low-cost model. The assembly lines are already in the process of "warming" since the start of production is really a matter of time: they start in five or six weeks. This model, which is still scarce official information, will be marketed initially in Brazil and Serbia, a country where, however, will be produced.

Brazil in particular the low-cost Fiat, as anticipated last week should call Uno (and have a size between Panda and Grande Punto), will be presented in early 2010. Fiat has so far invested 800 million euros to modernize the establishment of Serbian Kragujevac (Zastava recently acquired in the transaction) and adjusting the forthcoming production.

Serbian factory also might come out in the future a second product, in addition to one: this is the Topolino, whose design, however, has been recently frozen and is not excluded from its complete cancellation of the Fiat industrial plans.

martin_krpan je napisal/-a:AFM spet piše, da so se v Fiatu že odločili, da bodo znamko Lancia ukinili, nekatere njene modele pa naprej prodajali kot fiat ali Alfa. Ima kdo dodatne informacije?

Autocar je napisal/-a:Fiat/Chrysler's five-year plan

04 November 2009


The Fiat-controlled Chrysler Group says it will propel itself back into profit with a massive product blitz over the next four years.

The plans were revealed over a marathon six-hour press conference in Detroit, where Chrysler bosses detailed how the company intends to relaunch and rebrand Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler, boosting global sales from this year’s low of 1.3m to 2.8m in 2014.

Chrysler says that by 2014 half of its models will be based on Fiat Group platforms and many of its engines will use Fiat Multiair variable valve technology, including Chrysler’s new Pentastar V6 powerplant.

Fiat will become the leader in small petrol and diesel engines and Chrysler the leader for large engine, hybrids and electric cars.

In four years’ time, the combined Chrysler/Fiat Group should be producing a combined total of over five million vehicles per year, a number regarded by boss Sergio Marchionne as the minimum volume required for a single car maker to prosper.

Chrysler says it has already completely re-thought its quality processes in reaction to what it admitted were unacceptable standards over the last few years. The company is also reorganising its manufacturing systems and overhauling its factories.

By 2014, Chrysler Group is predicting that its US market share will have risen to 11 per cent from the six per cent low it suffered in 2009. The company says it will make an operating profit next year and break even in 2011. The money it borrowed from the US state as a result of its bankruptcy will be paid back by 2014, according to financial projections.

Dodge plans

The Dodge brand has been given a new logo and will be repositioned as being "more youthful and more refined", with a "more visceral driving experience" and much-improved quality.

The new models will be available in one of five ‘lifestyle packages’ including ‘uptown luxury’ and ‘cool extrovert’.

2010
Completely revamped versions of the Avenger and Journey crossover with much improved interiors, handling and refinement. The brand will also get a new Charger and big new Crossover.

2011
A new version of the Nitro is "under consideration".

2012
Dodge gets a new Golf-size saloon based on Fiat platform. A new Viper based on Fiat group tech is under consideration.

2013
A Fiat-based Avenger replacement and Punto-based hatchback.

2014
An all-new big MPV.

Jeep plans

Having peaked at 609,000, Jeeps global sales crashed to just 497,000 in 2008. The company’s aim is to boost that over 800,000 by 2014. Chrysler says Jeep was hit by a doubling of competitors in the SUV segment as well as the arrival of ‘crossovers’.

In the future, most Jeep models will be more tuned to on-road use and will come in two-wheel-drive and four-wheel-drive versions, although a new platform architecture will allow the company to build cars that can be optimized for road and ‘Trail Rated’ off-road.

The Wrangler will remain the core ‘no compromise’ off-road model. A concept at the Detroit show next January will point the way for the brand’s future styling.

2010
The all-new Grand Cherokee arrives. Major overhauls for the Patriot, Compass, Wrangler (including a new interior) and a facelift for the Liberty.

2011
Another Wrangler revamp for Jeep’s 70th anniversary. Production of the Commander will be "internationally relocated"; China or India are possible new sites.

2013
New Fiat-based Punto-size Jeep and new Patriot, Liberty and Compass based on a Fiat platform.

Chrysler plans

Chrysler is now overseen seen by Frenchman Olivier Francois, who also runs Lancia. The rumours about the effective merging of the two makers around a very similar brand image turned out to be on the mark.

Francois suggested that the Chrysler 300C and Lancia Thesis are very similar propositions and says that in future both brands will get models that reflect "timeless elegance" and recapture "style and cachet". Chrysler will be "unique, upscale and consistent".

The image overhaul will run from the new logo and brochures to the brand appearing at "fashion shows rather than auto shows". The overall approach is strongly reminiscent of Rover’s (unsuccessful) 1999 relaunch with the 75 saloon.

However, it was not explained to what extent Chrysler and Lancia would share the same models and dealerships in Europe, although one of the presentation slides suggested that only the Voyager and 300C would be sold in Europe under the Chrysler badge. Lancia will most likely get a version of the new mid-size saloon and crossover.

2010
New 300C saloon and "down to the bare bones of the architecture" revamps of the Sebring saloon and Voyager MPV which promise massively improved perceived quality. The PT Cruiser will also die.

2012
New Fiat-based compact saloon.

2013
New Fiat-based Punto-size car. New Fiat-based Sebring and mid-size Crossover.

2014
New Voyager.

Fiat in North America

Fiat’s reputation in North America is still very poor, mainly due to the reliability problems with otherwise popular cars such as the 124 Spider. The Fiat brand pulled out in 1983.

However, the company will dip its toe back in the water next year. The Fiats will be sold in ‘metro area’ dealers.

2010
US version of the Fiat 500.

2011
Fiat 500 cabrio.

2012
Abarth 500.

Chrysler and Fiat did not reveal any plans to relaunch Alfa Romeo in the US market, even though Fiat has pondered the move.

Chrysler’s RAM pick-up and truck brand is also set for an aggressive relaunch, with the aim of boosting sales from 285,000 to 415,000 by 2014. The RAM brand will also get to small commercial Fiat-based vans.

Hilton Holloway