Nova vozila v prodaji, konceptna vozila in vsa vozila, o katerih lahko (zaenkrat) le sanjamo...
 
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Če jan 10, 2008 7:08 pm

Genesis proti seriji 5:
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Napisal/-a Tattoo- Če jan 10, 2008 8:47 pm

martin_krpan je napisal/-a:Genesis proti seriji 5:

Copy - Paste :roll:
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Napisal/-a avtomobil Pe jan 11, 2008 3:37 pm

Čisto vredu avto. Ene moti značka.
Avto,moj partner!!!!!!!!
 
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Napisal/-a Blink-182- Pe jan 11, 2008 5:41 pm

SIcer kar lep avto, ampak je pa čista kopija BMW5. :lol: :evil:
 
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Napisal/-a Templar Pe jan 11, 2008 6:14 pm

Če sem čisto pošten ne glede na moje preference se mi takole na primerjavo zdi BMW5 po obliki bolj "korejski" od Genesisa :vc , je pa res da se mi "5ka" ne dopade sploh, in da spadam v klub tistih ki bi "angleškega oblikovalca"(the one that shall not be named") nabil na kol in nosil kazat na oblikovalske akademije kako ne smejo delat če ne bojo končali tako kot on!
Če lahko bereš tole si preblizu! Drži varnostno razdaljo!
 
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Napisal/-a Dr.M3 Pe jan 11, 2008 6:52 pm

Bla bla. Za razliko od Audijevih oblikovalcev, BMWjaške oblikovalce celo posnemajo (luči, notranjost, iDrive, oblika volana ( :-P )) - cela industrija. Že res da Bangla nekateri ne marajo, ampak je verjetno pa eden najbolj posnemavajočih se dizajnerjev v zodovini panoge. 8)
Na slikah je tudi meni 5ica malce povprečnega videza. V živo (in zrihtana z okusom) pa tako športno elegantna ...
 
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Napisal/-a GregaST Pe jan 11, 2008 7:24 pm

Zdele si pa pošteno zgrešil. Daleč najbolj posnemana znamka je vsekakor mercedes.
 
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Napisal/-a Dr.M3 Pe jan 11, 2008 8:43 pm

Mercedes kopira pa od BMWja (saj ne da ni Command čista kopija iDriva ALI notranjost v S klasi/CL kopija tiste iz 7er). 8)
Ali BMWjevi angle eyesi (ok to je še iz previous gen.), shark, luči ...

Love him or hate him ... Bangles je postavil ogromno standardov in je zagotovo najbolj vpliven avtomobilski dizajner zadnjega časa. Vsekakor pa tak, najbolj prediskutiran
 
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Napisal/-a esem Pe jan 11, 2008 10:10 pm

Če se že gremo, kdo posnema Bangla - tisti, ki nimajo svojih idej. To, da se Bangle-ovo oblikovanje dopade tistim brez idej, pove dovolj. Kot pove dovolj tudi to, da lahko novodobne BMW oblike nategnejo na katerikoli avto, pa naj bo to MB notranje pohištvo ali Genesis - in to oblike znamke, ki bi morala bit unikat v svetu, torej nekaj neponovljivega! Bangle je očitno soliden oblikovalec, a BMW-ju odvzema tisto, po katerem se je odlikoval in mu dodaja "generično korejske" elemente.
 
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Napisal/-a Lignage Pe jan 11, 2008 10:16 pm

avtomobil je napisal/-a:Čisto vredu avto. Ene moti značka.


Le kako nas bi značka motila, če je pa sploh nima ;)

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Napisal/-a INFINITI Pe jan 11, 2008 10:42 pm

Men ta avto deluje res vrhunsko in kvalitetno - iskreno bi ga kupil kot limuzino
2000 Hyundai Coupe 2.0 → 2003 Hyundai Coupe 2.0 → 1999 BMW 740i → 2009 BMW 530d M
→ 2010 Škoda Superb TDI → 2008 Renault Laguna Coupe GT 2.0T → 2016 KIA Sportage CRDi → 2021 KIA Xceed 1.5 T-gdi
 
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Napisal/-a esem Pe jan 11, 2008 10:58 pm

Kot limuzina bo verjetno best-buy - in to z veliko prednostjo. No, morda mu bo novi Superb dobra konkurenca...
 
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Napisal/-a sašo5 Pe jan 11, 2008 11:17 pm

....ne vem, če smo že pisali, ampak Hyundai (i 30) in ta zgledajo "bemvejevsko" zato, ker je Banglov pomočnik "prebegnil" k Hyundaju......(meni osebno je lepši kot bmv 5)
 
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Napisal/-a adis Pe jan 11, 2008 11:27 pm

opa :shock:

kakšen avto...raje to kot pa bmw 5 ( katero vidiš na vsakem vogalu in je iskreno rečeno že "boring" )

no, edino kar mi ni všeč je sredinska konzola lahko bi jo malo bolje "izpopolnili"
 
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Napisal/-a avtomobil So jan 12, 2008 12:47 am

Dejstvo je, da pri Hyundaiu niso posnemali BMW-jove oblikovalce, kajti BMW oblikovalci delajo za Hyundai na Bavarskem. Noben oblikovalec ni nikamor pobegnil ali kar koli podobnega. Pri BMW-ju pa je itak vsak dodaten denar dobrodošel, pa čeprav delajo za konkurenco. Zato so si avtomobili tudi podobni.
Hyundai očitno ima denar za take stvari in se je tudi pravilno odločil.


Bomo videli kaj bo prinesel čas za južno Korejsko firmo.
Avto,moj partner!!!!!!!!
 
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Napisal/-a INFINITI So jan 12, 2008 7:38 pm

avtomobil je napisal/-a:Dejstvo je, da pri Hyundaiu niso posnemali BMW-jove oblikovalce, kajti BMW oblikovalci delajo za Hyundai na Bavarskem. Noben oblikovalec ni nikamor pobegnil ali kar koli podobnega. Pri BMW-ju pa je itak vsak dodaten denar dobrodošel, pa čeprav delajo za konkurenco. Zato so si avtomobili tudi podobni.
Hyundai očitno ima denar za take stvari in se je tudi pravilno odločil.


To si ga pa krepko mimo usekal da je kaj - poznam delo BMW in niti pod razno ne delajo dizajna za koga drugega, celo oblike imajo patentirane oz zaščitene od armaturke do feltne.
Človek, ki je pa dizajniral I30 (in koncept HED-4 quarmak) pa JE BIVŠI OBLIKOVALEC PRI BMW, ki je tudi narisal serijo 1 svoj čas in je bivši učenec Chris Bangla.
Stricu je ime Thomas Bürkle in je sedaj vodja dizajna za Hyundai Europe.

-Ne pišite kar neke lape na pamet....
2000 Hyundai Coupe 2.0 → 2003 Hyundai Coupe 2.0 → 1999 BMW 740i → 2009 BMW 530d M
→ 2010 Škoda Superb TDI → 2008 Renault Laguna Coupe GT 2.0T → 2016 KIA Sportage CRDi → 2021 KIA Xceed 1.5 T-gdi
 
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Napisal/-a AudiFreak So jan 12, 2008 8:18 pm

A ste opazili na 9. strani , da so tudi felne kopija: Bentley style. :)
Nimam privilegijev za branje tega foruma, ampak vseeno berem.
 
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Napisal/-a Dr.M3 So jan 12, 2008 8:25 pm

Notranjost izgleda res vrhunsko narejena.
To se bi znalo prodajati ob pravi ceni. 3-4 avti združeni v enem za spodobno ceno. 8)
 
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Napisal/-a podgurc So jan 12, 2008 9:13 pm

Res zgleda vse perfektno. Še prava cena in marketing (v kar ne dvomim) pa bo marsikateri "biznisman" raj tu kupu kot pa kakšnega nemškega konkurenta.
Drgač pa na zgornjih slikah se mi zdi kot mešanica kšnega ameriškega avtomobila (barva) in kšnega japonca.
:bravo hyundai
 
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Ne jan 13, 2008 11:19 am

Še uradni Press release. Če je za verjeti, bo Genesis stal pod 30.000 USD.

HYUNDAI UNVEILS GENESIS PREMIUM SPORTS SEDAN

Hyundai crafts a rival to $60,000 sports sedans … with a starting price under $30,000

Rear-wheel drive and high-output V8 engine deliver world-class driving experience

FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., January 8, 2008 – Hyundai aims to shatter premium automobile paradigms with the North American International Auto Show introduction of its new flagship, the all-new Genesis sports sedan on January 13. With capabilities and features comparable to $60,000 premium sedans, Genesis will be offered at a starting price under $30,000 when it goes on sale this summer.

Genesis is built on Hyundai’s all-new, performance-driven rear-wheel-drive architecture. It offers three powertrains, including 3.3-liter and 3.8-liter V6 engines, and Hyundai’s all-new 4.6-liter Tau V8. Tau will produce an estimated 368 horsepower on regular fuel, and lead all its competitors in specific output with 80 horsepower per liter. With technology rivaling more expensive luxury sedans, Genesis showcases features such as XM NavTraffic, Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFLS), Smart Cruise Control, Lexicon® audio systems and electronic active head restraints (for a full list of leading features, see page 8).

“While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Chrysler 300 and Pontiac G8, our engineering benchmarks were Mercedes E-Class, Infiniti M, and Lexus GS,” said John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. “Genesis provides a potent combination of performance, luxury, and value. We think it has the opportunity to be an extremely disruptive force in the large sedan and near-luxury segments.”
Genesis ushers in a new era for Hyundai. Its all-new rear-wheel drive architecture will spawn more products in other segments, as suggested by the Concept Genesis Coupe shown at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2007.

NEW PERFORMANCE-DRIVEN REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE ARCHITECTURE

Genesis is built on an all-new rear-wheel-drive architecture, its first application in a U.S. Hyundai model. Genesis boasts a near ideal 53/47 front-to-rear weight distribution for exceptional handling and more refined steering characteristics. The rear-wheel-drive layout allowed engineers to position the car’s front wheels farther forward delivering outstanding handling and steering performance. Standard Electronic Stability Control (ESC), the industry’s most important new safety technology, further enhances the vehicle’s driving confidence. Hyundai leads all popular car brands in the standard application of ESC, with more than 70 percent of 2007 Hyundai sales featuring ESC as standard equipment.

Genesis reduces interior noise levels and improves ride and handling with a stiffer, lighter body structure. The use of high tensile steel in critical areas in the unibody provides Genesis with 12-14 percent higher dynamic torsional rigidity and a lower body structure weight than the BMW 5-series and Mercedes-Benz E-Class – despite having a substantially larger cabin than either of those benchmarks. Hyundai Genesis has more interior volume than Mercedes Benz E-Class and BMW 7-Series.

WORLD-CLASS TAU V8

Headlining the Genesis’ performance capabilities is Hyundai’s all-new Tau 4.6-liter V8 engine mated to a ZF 6-speed automatic transmission with SHIFTRONIC® manual control. The Tau V8 delivers an estimated 368 horsepower to fit the demands of performance-oriented consumers. Unlike many competitors and most premium sedans, it achieves this impressive power output using regular unleaded fuel – further demonstration of Hyundai’s commitment to value. This powertrain combination will launch Genesis to 60 miles per hour in less than six seconds. The Tau produces more horsepower and torque than the powerplants found in Lexus GS450, BMW 750i, Audi A8 and Infiniti M45 and has more horsepower per liter than any of its V8 competitors. The Tau engine is built with flexibility for the future. Future Tau variants may offer larger displacement, forced induction options and other technology enhancements.

STRONG LAMBDA V6 PERFORMANCE

Genesis also delivers spirited performance through its two V6 options — all-aluminum 3.3-liter and 3.8-liter DOHC V6 engines that deliver an estimated 268 horsepower and 233 lb-ft. of torque and an estimated 290 horsepower and 264 lb.-ft. of torque, respectively. To maximize the power spread, the engines utilize Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) on intake and exhaust cam shafts and a new Variable Intake System (VIS) that helps cylinders breathe efficiently at low and high RPM. The better breathing results in outstanding off-the-line acceleration and passing performance, and remarkable fuel efficiency. The V6 engines use an alloy block and cylinder heads for lighter weight and thermal efficiency, and feature timing chains with no scheduled maintenance.

Even with their impressive output, all Genesis engines are also environmentally friendly, with all three achieving Ultra Low Emission Vehicle (ULEV) certification levels.

ADVANCED 6-SPEED TRANSMISSIONS
Both Genesis V6 engines use an Aisin 6-speed SHIFTRONIC automatic transmission that features an overdrive lock-up torque converter for improved highway fuel economy. The transmission offers smooth shifts and a wide spread of ratios that ideally suit both engine’s characteristics including a tall-overdrive sixth gear for quiet, efficient highway cruising. Drivers can access the SHIFTRONIC® feature by moving the gear selector into a separate gate. Pushing the selector forward or pulling it rearward will shift the transmission up or down sequentially, adding to driver control. A clear LCD readout on the instrument panel shows the gear that’s in use.
The Tau V8 Genesis is mated with an enhanced, high-output ZF 6-speed transmission to handle the added horsepower and torque.

INNOVATIVE AND SOPHISTICATED SPORT-TUNED SUSPENSION

Genesis features a suspension design that is among the most sophisticated and refined anywhere, at any price. The front five-link suspension features upper and lower arms linking the front wheels to the chassis. This artfully articulated arrangement creates a virtual king pin axis that dramatically reduces unwanted kickback through the steering wheel as well as improving responsiveness. The five-link independent rear suspension is equally sophisticated, enabling precise suspension geometry for a premium ride and engaging handling prowess. The capabilities of the advanced front and rear-suspension are maximized through Amplitude Selective Dampers (ASD) allowing tuning flexibility at smaller damper displacements. The ASD suspension provides:

• Improved ride comfort with more body / wheel control
• Increase driving comfort without compromised handling
• Optimizes road surface contact
• Technology used in Lexus, BMW and Mercedes-Benz models

PROGRESSIVE DESIGN MIRRORS ATHLETIC CAPABILITY

Genesis’ design is a progressive interpretation of the modern rear-wheel drive sports sedan. To match its dynamic capabilities, Genesis combines strong, sculpted forms which integrate precise details, natural materials and innovative lighting to provide a well-crafted, premium design aesthetic.

HIGH-TECH ACCOMMODATIONS AT ACCESSIBLE PRICE POINTS

The new 2009 Genesis is the most advanced Hyundai ever. From its design and spaciousness to its technology and appointments, it delivers a wealth of features and performance befitting flagship European and Asian brands, but delivers them at a much more accessible price point. Starting with its Lexicon state-of-the-art audio system featuring LOGIC 7® technology, Genesis offers an extraordinary combination of technology, premium appointments, and value. Standard is a soft-touch instrument panel with woodgrain accents, Bluetooth® hands-free mobile phone interface, and USB/iPod® auxiliary inputs. A state-of-the-art navigation system with an eight-inch display is available. The navigation unit is accessed by a user-friendly multi-media controller that also controls the radio. Backing out of tight spaces and avoiding mishaps is much easier with the available backup camera that uses the eight-inch display to show the driver a clear view immediately behind the car.
A leather-wrapped dash, door panels, and console lid surround the driver in a luxurious environment, while heated and cooled driver’s seat provides optimal driving comfort. An automatic windshield defogger with humidity sensor and rain-sensing wipers allow crystal clear sight lines. No other car in the segment offers an ultraviolet reflective leather steering wheel, which keeps the surface cool to the touch, even in scorching sunlight. Genesis also offers the conveniences of power rear sunshade, automatic electronic parking brake, proximity key and push button starter.

LEXICON® AUDIO SYSTEMS TEAM WITH XM, HD RADIO™, and APPLE TO OFFER UNRIVALED AUDIO PERFORMANCE AND CHOICE
Rolls Royce Phantom and Hyundai Genesis are the only automobiles to offer a Lexicon-branded state-of-the-art audio system featuring LOGIC 7® technology. The Lexicon® surround sound audio system includes a 12-channel digital amplifier and 17 speakers producing more than 500 watts of sound in 7.1 discrete audio. Genesis is also the first popular brand to offer the clarity of digital HD Radio technology from the factory. Navigation-equipped Genesis models also include a 30-gigabyte hard drive and XM NavTraffic. Like every 2009 Hyundai, Genesis comes standard with XM Satellite Radio. Auxiliary USB and iPod® inputs allow drivers to fully control and charge iPods directly from the head unit.

ADVANCED LIGHTING TECHNOLOGY
The 2009 Genesis offers Xenon high-intensity discharge (HID) headlights. The advantages of HID headlamps include greater lighting power, daylight-type lighting and reduced power consumption. In addition, the cut lines of the new HID headlights are extremely precise, providing maximum nighttime visibility without distracting other drivers. The lamps also feature an auto-leveling function which keeps the headlights level regardless of how the vehicle is loaded with passengers or cargo. Genesis also offers an Automatic Front Lighting System that allows the headlamps to automatically swivel for better visibility when cornering.

NEW TECHNOLOGIES DELIVER IMPROVED SAFETY PERFORMANCE
Maintaining Hyundai’s emphasis on delivering leading safety technology, Genesis boasts world-class active and passive safety features to help both prevent accidents, and maximize the well being of its occupants in the event of a collision. The Genesis continues the Hyundai tradition of standardizing key life-saving safety technology such as Electronic Stability Control (ESC), eight airbags and electronic active head restraints.
Genesis’ total of eight airbags include advanced dual front airbags, front and rear seat-mounted side-impact airbags, and roof-mounted side curtain airbags for both front and rear outboard seat occupants.
An electronic active head restraint system will debut on the 2009 Hyundai Genesis. Hyundai is the first popular brand to offer electronic active front head restraints, an improvement over mechanically based active head restraint systems. Until now, electronic active head restraints could only be found on select Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Lexus models. Active front head restraints have been proven by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety to help prevent whiplash.
Genesis has a total of 8 ultrasonic sensors located on the front and rear bumpers. The sensors along with the rear backup camera help detect how close objects are when parking. Distance is indicated on the in-dash screen and accompanied by an audible warning tone.
Forward-looking radar is used in Genesis’ Smart Cruise Control system. Smart Cruise Control adjusts vehicle speed to maintain distance from the vehicle ahead in the same lane.
Genesis is brought to a halt by large four-wheel anti-lock disc brakes with Brake Assist and Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD). The 12.6-inch front rotors have single-piston floating calipers and the rear brakes feature 12.4-inch rotors with single-pistons on V6 models. Twin-pistons and larger rotors are featured on V8 models.

WARRANTY
The all-new 2009 Hyundai Genesis is protected by the Hyundai Advantage, America’s Best Warranty™. Coverage includes five-year/60,000-mile bumper-to-bumper protection, 10-year/100,000-mile limited powertrain warranty, and seven-year/unlimited mileage anti-perforation coverage. In addition, Genesis buyers receive 24-hour roadside assistance coverage at no extra charge for five years (no mileage limit) and that service includes emergency towing, lockout service and limited coverage for trip-interruption expenses. There is no deductible on any of these coverages.

TECHNOLOGY
• Electronic active front head restraints
• Electronic Stability Control
• Eight airbags
• Heated / cooled seats
• High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with adaptive leveling
• Adaptive Front Lighting System
• Push-button start
• Navigation with backup camera
• Electric parking brake
• Standard Bluetooth technology
• iPod/USB auxiliary inputs
• HD Radio™ receiver
• XM Satellite Radio® with NavTraffic
• Lexicon® Discrete Surround Audio Systems
• Automatic windshield defogger with humidity sensor
• Rain-sensing wipers
• Smart cruise control
• Five-link front and rear suspension
• Tau V8 engine
• 6-speed transmissions

GENESIS PREMIUM SPORTS SEDAN SPECIFICATIONS (Specifications subject to change prior to on sale date)
Configuration: Front-engine, rear-wheel drive sports sedan

Engines

3.3-liter V-6
Power (regular fuel): 264 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque (regular fuel): 233 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
Power (premium fuel): TBA
Torque (premium fuel): TBA
Construction: Aluminum block and heads
Bore/stroke: TBA
Capacity: 3342 cc
Compression ratio: TBA
Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam
Valve Timing: Continuously Variable
Induction system: Variable
Recommended fuel: 87 octane unleaded
Transmission type: Aisin 6-speed automatic
Fuel consumption (city/highway): TBA/TBA
Performance (0-60 mph): TBA
Emission controls: ULEV

3.8-liter V-6
Power (regular fuel): 290 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque (regular fuel): 264 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
Power (premium fuel): TBA
Torque (premium fuel): TBA
Construction: Aluminum block and heads
Bore/stroke: TBA
Capacity: 3778 cc
Compression ratio: TBA
Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam
Valve Timing: Continuously Variable
Induction system: Variable
Recommended fuel: 87 octane unleaded
Transmission type: Aisin 6-speed automatic with SHIFTRONIC manual control
Fuel consumption (city/highway): TBA/TBA
Performance (0-60 mph): TBA
Emission controls: ULEV

4.6-liter V-6
Power (regular fuel): 368 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (regular fuel): 324 lb-ft lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Power (premium fuel): 375 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (premium fuel): 333 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Construction: Aluminum block and heads
Bore/stroke: TBA
Capacity: 4627 cc
Compression ratio: TBA
Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam
Valve Timing: Continuously Variable
Induction system: Variable
Recommended fuel: 87 octane unleaded
Transmission type: ZF 6-speed automatic with SHIFTRONIC manual control
Fuel consumption (city/highway): TBA/TBA
Performance (0-60 mph): TBA (well under 6 seconds)
Emission controls: ULEV

Suspension
Front Virtual king pin axis (5-link)
Rear Multi-link (5-link)
Dampers Amplitude Selective Dampers (ASD)
Stabilizer bar (front/rear): 26 mm/18 mm
Wheels: 17-inch and 18-inch multi-spoke

Steering
Type: Speed-sensing rack-and-pinion
Ratio: 14.86

Weight distribution front to rear: 3.3: TBA 3.8: TBA 4.6: 53:47

Brakes
Front calipers: V6: Single-piston V8: Four Piston
Rear calipers: Single-piston
Front: V6: 12.6 in. x 1.1 in. V8: 12.99 in. x 1.18 in.
Rear V6: 12.36 in. x .51 in V8: 12.36 in. x .51 in.
Curb weight 3.3: 3732 lbs. 3.8: 3748 lbs. 4.6: 4006 lbs.

Body & Chassis
Wheelbase 2935 mm / 115.6 inches

Overall length 5005 mm / 197.0 inches
Overall width 1863 mm / 73.3 inches

Overall height 1490 mm / 58.7 inches
Track, front/rear 1575 mm / 62.0 inches, 1580 mm / 62.2 inches
Interior dimensions
Interior volume (SAE) 109.4 cu. ft.
Trunk volume (SAE) 15.9 cu. ft.
Front leg room 44.3 inches
Rear leg room 38.6 inches
Front headroom 40.4 inches
Rear headroom 37.7 inches
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