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2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Po dec 27, 2010 9:58 pm

Upam, da še ni blo, ker me že dolgo ni bilo na obisku. Bojda se obeta bizarni rebadge:

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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Bucko99 Po dec 27, 2010 10:39 pm

Dodge Journey :?:
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Lignage Po dec 27, 2010 10:39 pm

Torej, model Ulysse bo nadomestil Dodge Journey, Phedro pa Town&Country.

Je pa res zanimivo, da bodo s temi velikimi enoprostorci začel. Mogoče bi bilo boljš da bi za začetek zamenjali Multiplo s Calibrom.
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Renault VG To dec 28, 2010 9:06 am

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Predstavljen naj bi bil že v Ženevi prodaja pa se bo začela šele junija 2012.
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a ~toMmy~ Če dec 30, 2010 2:08 pm

Obup. Saj mogoče ne bo napačen za pogledat, ampak da to nadomesti takšna predhodnika, je žalostno, sploh če se zgodi tako pozno. Ena izkušnja pri hiši z modelom, ki se je pojavljal pod več imeni po svetu, je zame dovolj. Da ne govorimo o ostalih težavah, ki pestijo tako skup zmetane avtomobile zaradi neprimerne montaže motorja ipd.
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a carloabarth Če dec 30, 2010 6:13 pm

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Če bo tak, bo še lepši od originala. 8)
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a xandrej Če dec 30, 2010 6:30 pm

Avto je svetovn. Polepšali so mu notranjost pa je! Če bi ga začeliprodajat zdaj bi bilo to gut. leta 2012 pa bo po moje malo bolj kriza...
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a mrtwelvetrees Če dec 30, 2010 6:36 pm

ja sej zdej zgleda ok, če bi šel zdaj v prodajo... ampak 2012 bo pa že "prepozno"
Si vedel, da so semaforje Iznašli pri naftnih podjetjih za zapravljanje goriva in večanje dobičkov?
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a modri D. Pe dec 31, 2010 6:28 pm

Meni se je že stari Journey ful dopadu, samo notranjost ma res bogo. Sam če ga res tok popedenajo, potem je Freemont s tistimi 170KM dizlom odlična izbira - jst bi ga mel takoj, če bi bile le vozne lastnosti in notranjost solidne!
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a diamant72 Pe dec 31, 2010 8:29 pm

Saj nova notranjost je ok, celo za italijana bi bila ...
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a CITROENAR ŠT 1 Pe dec 31, 2010 10:24 pm

carloabarth je napisal/-a:Slika

Če bo tak, bo še lepši od originala. 8)



Že mogoče, vendar pa je to čisti Dodge s Fiatovim ogom spredaj in to je to. :nae :jao:


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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a carloabarth So jan 01, 2011 9:13 am

Temu se reče globalizacija in ni nič novega, npr. novi in stari sharan in alhambra, popolnoma identična avta samo druge značke imata gor, potem opel v evropi in vauxhall v veliki britaniji, renault v evropi in samsung v j. koreji in še in še ... Verjamem pa, da bo pri kreaciji naslednjih modelov dodga in chryslerja imel fiat večjo vlogo oz. vpliv, ker vsi ti, ki prihajajo na trg letos in drugo leto so še iz naveze daimler-chrysler. 8)
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a fare So jan 01, 2011 10:16 am

Samo naj bo cenovno dostopen in je problem rešen!
Tudi Daciin Duster je grd ko pes pa se še kar prodaja.
Meni osebno je všeč.
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a carloabarth So jan 01, 2011 11:46 am

fare je napisal/-a:Samo naj bo cenovno dostopen in je problem rešen!
Tudi Daciin Duster je grd ko pes pa se še kar prodaja.
Meni osebno je všeč.
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Če primerjaš dodga po obliki in kvaliteti z dacio, je ta svetlobna leta pred njo, tako, da mu dacia ni ravno konkurenca temveč ostali razviti svet. 8)
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Marek_ So jan 01, 2011 1:11 pm

@carloabar Res ni na nivoju Dacie, ampak tako kakovosten spet ni. Kar se pa avta tičje je popolnoma izven italijanskih oblikalskih smernic.
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a carloabarth So jan 01, 2011 8:30 pm

Ceed je napisal/-a:@carloabar Res ni na nivoju Dacie, ampak tako kakovosten spet ni. Kar se pa avta tičje je popolnoma izven italijanskih oblikalskih smernic.


Naj se sliši čudno, ampak se je z prevzemom fiata dvignila tudi raven oz. sama kvaliteta izdelave notranjosti, kajti sedel sem v dodgu calibru in lahko rečem, da je po sedaj prikaznem (beri slikah), kvaliteta journeya zares zelo nepredovala, ergonomsko kot tudi kvalitativno. Kar se tiče pa zunanje oblike, italijani pri sedanjih modelih niso imeli prstov zraven, vse to gre še na rovanš sodelovanja med daimlerjem in chryslerjem. Mogoče bodo bodoči modeli imeli malo več "italijanskega pridiha". 8)
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a martin_krpan Po jan 24, 2011 12:23 pm

Začelo se je.

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Motorja sta 2.0 Multijet (170) in ameriški 3,6 V6.

http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/15863 ... n-Chrysler

Saj dokler bodo na avtomobile koncerna Chrysler limali Fiatove značke, bo še sprejemljivo. Kar me glede Freemonta najbolj zanima, je bodoča cena.
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Napisal/-a carloabarth Po jan 24, 2011 2:01 pm

LOOK AT GENEVA BOUND FIAT BADGED DODGE JOURNEY CROSSOVER

Fiat has released first photos of the Dodge Journey minivan that will be cosmetically tweaked and rebadged as the Fiat Freemont when it debuts at next month’s Geneva Motor Show, before going on sale in Europe in the second half of the year.

Along with a raft of rebadged Chryslers set to debut as Lancias at Geneva, the Freemont will be the first in a series of Chrysler Group vehicles to be rebadged as a Fiat Group Automobiles product since Fiat took a stake in the U.S. carmaker following its emergence from the Chapter 11 procedure in the summer of 2009. The Europe-bound Freemont will be built at the Chrysler Group’s factory at Toluca in Mexico alongside the Journey; the North American-market specific Fiat 500 is also being built at the same plant.

The three photoshops issued by Fiat today show some cosmetic changes wrought to the Journey to try to give it a Fiat identity, and a more modern appeal. At the front there is a new radiator grille with Fiat badging and an evolution of the family ‘whisker’, while the lower front bumper section has been redesigned to give it more the feel of a crossover with a larger meshed section and an aluminium-effect trim plate along the bottom. There are also new fog lights and recesses. The only other external change is at the back, where the bumper gains a new profile; with the reflectors moving to the rear bumper, new LED-equipped tail-lights feature.

The Freemont is the first product of the hasty and low-budget stop-gap strategy being implemented by the two carmakers. Tweaking a crossover which is generally regarded as being towards the lower end of its class is an ambitious strategy for Fiat to pull off, and the Freemont will have its work cut out to succeed the outgoing Ulysse when there are few reasons that customers should choose the Freemont. It should also appeal to some customers who had considered the Croma. The Journey debuted at the 2007 Frankfurt IAA, and at the time was widely regarded as being behind the class leaders; its recent facelift merely bringing it up to the standard it should have been at three years ago, while its rivals haven’t stood still.

The Journey/Freemont is based on Chrysler’s JC platform, the result of a joint venture with Chrysler Group’s previous owners Daimler and Japanese manufacturer Mitsubishi. The dimensions (length 489 cm, width 188 cm and height 172 cm) in a car that is deceptively larger than it actually appears to be, benefit interior roominess, aided by the longest wheelbase in its category (289 cm).

The Journey has a seven-seat configuration as standard, with a third row of roomy seats that is easily accessible because the doors open ninety degrees, and this format has been carried over unchanged to the Freemont. The seats of the third row may be folded down with one movement to disappear below the floor line and create a regular load platform. The seats of the second row are fitted higher than those at the front, while the third row is raised in relation to the second, allowing all occupants maximum visibility. The second row can also be fitted with a child booster system: booster seats are used to make sure that children on board are sitting correctly, optimising the seatbelt geometry and guaranteeing greater protection, practicality and comfort.

The other key interior features of the recently-facelifted Journey are a high-mounted driving position, revised front seats, storage compartments, and a flat load area with a capacity of up to 1,461 litres. In a effort to improve the car’s reputation for poor interior quality, Chrysler Group’s designers started afresh with the interior for the facelift, which makes huge strides over the previous version, but still isn’t quite up to European standards. There is a new dashboard, instruments, chrome accents and detailing, and an infotainments system with a colour touchscreen.

In Freemont specification, two equipment levels will be offered on European markets. Both outfits will offer seven seats, triple-zone automatic climate control system, keyless entry system, cruise control, advanced trip computer, tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS), fog lights and touchscreen radio with colour screen and controls on the steering wheel. The more ‘metropolitan’ version will include 17” alloys, touchscreen radio with 8.4” screen, SD card and DVD reader, Bluetooth system, rear parking sensors, fold-down door mirrors, automatic headlight activation, darkened rear windows and roof bars.

The Freemont will have front wheel drive with turbo diesel power units (140 HP or 170 HP 2.0 MultiJet) combined with a manual gearbox. Later, the vehicle will also be available in 4x4 versions with 170 HP 2.0 MultiJet and 276 HP 3.6 petrol V6 engines, both with automatic transmissions. With the exception of the 3.6 litre unit from the Chrysler Group Pentastar family and its automatic transmission, all power units are produced and developed by FPT-Fiat Powertrain. The 3.6 V6 4x4 is set to become an instant curiosity in Europe – it being a very remote chance that any customer will specify the Freemont with this engine and drivetrain combination.

Fiat’s press release today claims that the Freemont’s “dynamic performance” has been improved over the facelifted Journey’s, thanks to “a special suspension and steering configuration for greater accuracy and directness”. Driving comfort is improved by “significant improvements to passenger compartment soundproofing”. Safety includes 7 airbags, anti-lock braking system (ABS) with Brake Assist, Electronic Stability Program (ESP) with Hill-Holder, and electronic roll mitigation (ERM) as standard on all vehicles.

(vir: http://www.italiaspeed.com/2011/cars/fi ... /2401.html)
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Po jan 24, 2011 9:57 pm

Temu pa se reče limanje značk v pravem pomenu besede. Sem mislil, da se bo vsaj 5% razlikoval od originala, pa se ne :D
 
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Re: 2012 Fiat Freemont

Napisal/-a Lignage Po jan 24, 2011 11:43 pm

Tole je res čist noro za videt. Ko je ta Journey prišel ven, nikoli, ampak res nikoli ne bi mogel pomislit da bo to lahko kdaj Fiat. Vse je mogoče :)

Je pa ta avto v bistvu konkurenca Fordu S-max. Me prav zanima kako jim bo šlo...

Najbolje da zdaj še Avengerja začnejo prodajat kot novo Cromo :)
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