drugmirko je napisal/-a:ja... jaz tudi ne razumem kaj si htel reč. najprej, ne vem od kod ideja, da novi C5 zgleda kot Audi al pa BMW!? mogoče kak detajl na riti al pa pri zadnjih lučeh sam....

xandrej je napisal/-a:Jao... Pa če je podoben dreku na palci...Človek ki ga je narisal je prej risal Audije in je hrvat.... Jebat ga... Zdaj je pač narisal avto ki ima citroenovo značko spredaj kaj zdaj... Če se grete tak so si vsi avti v nečem podobni. Lep je ko satan to je to!

Jeryslo je napisal/-a:

drugmirko je napisal/-a:ja... jaz tudi ne razumem kaj si htel reč. najprej, ne vem od kod ideja, da novi C5 zgleda kot Audi al pa BMW!? mogoče kak detajl na riti al pa pri zadnjih lučeh sam....

No točno rit me moti. Pa ne mi rečt, da se zadaj ne moreš poistovetiti z Audijem ali BMWjem. Hvala bogu, da so dali vsaj šipo od C6. Moti me to, da je ratal 4 vratna limuzina, ker ne vidim po tem nikakršne potrebe (sem pač očitno čuden).

Zame osebno je to "promašaj" in Citroen mora biti uglajena umirjena limuzina, ne pa športnik "wanna bee".

C6 je avto, pred katerim kapo dol, tam se takoj vidi da Citroen in takšna mora biti cela višja flota Citroena. In še enkrat, ne mi rečit, da ne boš večkrat od zadaj zamešal novo C5 in kakšnega Audija /BMWja.

Da o tem, da ponujajo v osnovnih verzijah fedre raje ne govorim ... mene so pač po 40 letih razočarali ... tako pač je.

gepl83 je napisal/-a:http://www.avtomobilizem.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61354&highlight=

temu pa ziher ni nč podoben, razen v udobju

drugmirko je napisal/-a:....pa tudi novinarji Top Geara, ki so za kanček bolj odprte glave in znajo z njo ustvarit tudi svoje mnenje in ne samo ponavljat "aktualne misli o germanskosti" so, naravnost zanimivo, napisali, da hidraktivno podvozje seka in je definitivno boljši izbor! preberi si test drive na pageu njihovega cajtenga!
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Top Gear-ov Tom Ford je napisal/-a:Citroen C5 2.2 HDi Exclusive

Hard to find a decent cobble these days, but perseverance and the lack of modern road architecture in Portugal has paid off.

It's a time-saver - tackling a decent section of these medieval, uneven little suspension-worriers is akin to driving 1,000 miles on mixed surfaces; if there are issues with the dangly bits, cobbles will root them out like a pig scouring for truffles.

After about 10 minutes of significantly failing to get double vision, or talk in a constant vibrato, it's impossible not to conclude that the Hydractive III + hydropneumatic system nicked off the bigger C6 is really well sorted in this application. Excellent, even.

In fact, after about three hours in this 173bhp, 2.2-litre 'Exclusive'-spec turbodiesel, there's a warm feeling that just won't shift - not the usual reaction to a middle-market turbodiesel saloon, even if the excellent seats do have a massage function and a heater capable of cooking your colon.

So the C5 is a nice place to sit and a home run if you have a slightly achy lower back, but as soon as Citroen started the pitch for the car, it was hard not to feel slightly uncomfortable.

The new strapline for Citroen's C5 advert is 'Unmistakably German Feel. Made in France'. They've made a large play of the 'German-ness' of the new car - associating the Fatherland with engineering integrity and solid design - and I was marginally concerned that it would end up as a strange little parody of an A4 on the cheap, and without the excuse that it looked like the designers had been at the hand-rolled Gauloises.

I could always excuse the C6's dynamic shortcomings just by looking at it - when you go mainstream, you have to play by the numbers. You have to appeal to the masses.

Luckily the C5 looks better in real life than on the adverts. It's not as visually arresting as the C6, with which it shares a large amount of its under-the-skin components, including platform and suspension systems, but it is handsome and quietly resolved.

There's the typical Citroen Roman nose and shorter rear overhang, big lights, strong shoulders. There's a slightly anodyne and derivative rear three-quarter view, but it looks good from the front and doesn't try too hard.

Don't forget that under here is essentially a Peugeot 407, so Citroen has done well to keep the C5 looking so calm and gently handsome. Hints of everything from Audi to BMW ghost through the surfacing, especially from medium distance away, but it always stays on the right side of pastiche and it looks great on the optional 19-inch wheels.

The dash has now focussed itself and is less intentionally wayward. The dials all face the driver in a defined area, and the passenger gets their own space to play in. There's a taller, more solid dash, and the feel is generally more conventional (i.e. Germanic).

But that's not to say that it's a bad thing - Citroen has made considerable leaps in quality, and the C5 has become a genuinely lovely place to be. Every surface is coated in some sort of silicone product - it feels good and has the added bonus of being extremely noise-absorbant. This car instantly feels well-made, solid and silent. A very good start.

Luckily, Citroen's designers haven't been slavish in their copying and there's still a bit of Gallic playfulness to set the C5 apart from more straightforward interior design from rivals like the Passat and Mondeo. The needles on the dials, for instance, rotate around the outside, leaving the centre section of the circle free for other car-related data.

The steering is also via a static hub-centre steering wheel, nicked off the C4, and leaves most of the controls always in the same place. There are also purely design touches that mark this car out: look at the way the trim on the inside door card swoops out around and back in a kind of incomplete Mobius loop. Not necessary, not functional, and the better for it.

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So the styling and interior vibe is more rational, but not dull. The handling and performance are pretty similar. The C5 is offered with two suspension systems - one the comfort-skewed Hydractive III + hydropneumatic that everyone so loved on the waftacious C6 limo, the other a more traditional set of steel springs that Citroen says give a 'more direct road feel'. The complicated one is the more expensive, though Citroen expects a roughly 50/50 uptake in the UK.

There are six engines coming to the UK: two petrols and four diesels. Top of the range is a twin-turbo, 208bhp,V6 diesel that comes with a six-speed auto only, bottom is a 127bhp, 1.8-litre four.

The 2.0 and 2.2-litre HDI diesels are expected to be popular in the UK- Citroen wants to hit the fleet markets pretty hard with this car - and both are more than capable of punting the C5 around without apparent effort, though don't get cocky at the lights, because any of the rivals you care to mention have a definitively more sporting bent.

This isn't a quick car, but keeping up isn't a problem. The characterful version is the one with Hydractive. You can stick it in 'Sport' and have a cheerful old time with the generous available grip, although you'll be disappointed by slightly dulled steering and virtually complete isolation from the wheels.

The trade-off, when you stick the car in 'Comfort' and stop being silly, is a Lexus-lite ride quality. The C5 is tauter than a C6, so it's lost that slightly seasick compression wobble, but keeps the ability to tune out masses of stuff that really annoys.

It's not the magic carpet that some people seem to think; there's still a bit of transference of high-amplitude grumble, but you'll be impressed nevertheless. Thank goodness that Citroen has kept the ride quality French - beating the Germans at driving dynamics isn't just a tall order, it's an overcrowded niche; some of us would prefer a slightly more relaxed air.

So it's a comfy, well-engineered, good-looking attempt on making Citroen feel a bit more premium. It's well priced - generally undercutting Mondeo and Passat, never mind BMW and Audi - and with more kit. Job done, brilliant. There's just one problem: Citroen, in pretty much every advert I've seen, is portraying itself as a value-for-money brand. Money off. Prices down. Cheap.

Then you want to sell me a car that's supposed to have all the premium qualities? Not sure sunshine, I think I might stick to a 3-Series in so spartan a spec that I have to pedal and tune the radio from my fillings. Don't want the neighbours thinking all I can afford is a big Citroen. Our loss though.

Citroen can be proud of the C5 - it is a car that makes you feel good about the company. It isn't the best-handling or most dynamic out there, but it is a well-judged compromise.

So if Citroen can get people to put aside their prejudices long enough to take a test drive, I think it may have a car in the C5 that could take the French firm to places it's never been before. It's a slice of middle-market brilliance. And that's a hard thing to carry off, even if you are reverse-engineering from existing German product.

Words by Tom Ford

. Don't want the neighbours thinking all I can afford is a big Citroen. Our loss though.