Nova vozila v prodaji, konceptna vozila in vsa vozila, o katerih lahko (zaenkrat) le sanjamo...
 
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Napisal/-a SamoK Sr sep 03, 2008 11:04 pm

tole kar se tebi dogaja je pri dizlih cisto nekaj obicajnega, saje se pac morajo skurit.. ce je pri tako novem avto to obicajno nevem, vem pa da to ni nic narobe!
 
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Napisal/-a cimbalca Sr sep 03, 2008 11:09 pm

Če je tole normalno sem pomirjen. Sem si kar mislil, da mora biti nekaj programiranega, ker če bi bilo kaj z zgorevanjem narobe prav gotovo ne bi ponehalo kar tako.
 
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Napisal/-a sašo5 Sr sep 03, 2008 11:10 pm

cimbalca je napisal/-a:Naj mi kdo napiše kaj o temle pojavu. Upam da mi niso spet podtaknili kakšen slab izdelek.l

....lahko ti napišem, kako to dela na audiju(nova štirka) sedaj po prevoženih 8000 km se je sprožila reakcija čiščenja filtra dvakrat: na armaturi zagori rumena lučka(slika filtra) in ker sem(ko se je čistil drugič) bil na avto cesti, peljal na tempomat 150 km/h, trenutna je kazala 6.8 in par sekund po prižgani lučki je ta zrasla na 8.8 Prej kot po dveh kilometrih je rumena lučka ugasnila, poraba se je stabilizirala.........Piše pa v teh. knj. da naj nebi ustavljal ko se lučka prižge, ampak če je možnost vozil kilometer ali dva nekje med 3000-3500 obrati najbolje v tretji prestavi, če si pa na AC pa pač peti ali šesti.........piše še, da več kot je mestne vožnje(drkarije) pogosteje pride do "reakcije" (čiščenja) in ker imam AC "pre nosom" tudi na šiht (8km) se vozim po njej, moj avto vsaj 1x na teden vidi na števcu številko 200, zato mislim, da se je filter sedaj v petih mesecih "čistil" le dvakrat.......
 
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Napisal/-a cimbalca Sr sep 03, 2008 11:15 pm

Naj povem, da sva pri predaji avta imela avto prižgan cca 1 uro . na mestu seveda. Tako da je zgorevanje takoj mogoče logično, ne razumem pa zakaj se je začelo čiščenje po vožnji na avtocesti. Pri meni se DPF lučka ne prižge, mi je pa prodajalec rekel, da se prižge pri čezmerni zapackanosti in potem ga pa moram 15 min terati na najmanj 2100obratih najmanj 60 KM/h, No pa bo čas pokazal kako tele stvari tečejo. Vseeno hvala. Po moje preveč trenutno porabo bulim.

Sicer sem pa presenečen nad trdoto sedežev (usnje) in samim trdim vzmetenjem. Preseneča me še visoka kakovost izdelave in slaba kakovost plastike v notranjosti. Prej sem vozil Laguno privilege in bilo je ravno obratno. Mehka vožnja, zrlo mehko sedenje, zelo kvalitetna plastika in katastrofalna kvaliteta izdelave. Špranje so bile kakor kje - nekje 5mm simetrično na drgi polovici avta pa 2mm. Laguna se mi je kvarila vsako leto enkrat. Piko na i pa so doprinesli Xenini ko so mi crknili pred 2. mesecema. Popravilo 700€. Tedaj je padla odločitev. Hočem Japonca, da bo mir pri hiši. Upam da pregovorna Japonska zanesljivost res drži.
 
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Napisal/-a kripa Če sep 04, 2008 7:17 am

cimbalca je napisal/-a:Sedaj sem že dober teden lastnik prej omenjene Mazde6 CD sportkombi 140 GT. Negativno me je presenetila trenutna poraba prvih deset km. Zakaj? Prvih deset km mi je računalnik kazal porabo 14 l /100km pri 60km/h v četrti prestavi. Bil sem čisto na tleh. Naslednji dan mi je žena naredila 250 km in je poraba padla na 7,6l/100 km. Pri 500km pa spet ista pesem 13 - 16l/100km (trnutna poraba) in tole spet samo nekaj km. Potem sem tole povezal z izgorevanjem trdih delcev na keraminčnem filtru. Drugače je poraba čisto solidna za tale avto. Mešani cikel 7,3l/100km. Kripa a mi lahko poveš koliko rabi tvoja 6ivca in ali ali se tebi dogaja isto. Ko sem se pri tako povečani porabi ustavil v službi sem okrog avta zavohal blagi smrad po zažganem olju (ne vem če je bil vonj ravno po olju???). Potem sem v priročniku prebral, da se med zgorevanjem trdih delcev poveča poraba in da izpuh spremeni vonj. Naj mi kdo napiše kaj o temle pojavu. Upam da mi niso spet podtaknili kakšen slab izdelek.l


Kar se tiče smrada je to normalno (vprašal na servis), ker je nov avto in se mora "zapeči" neka zaščita, ne vem se nisem poglabljal v to. V glavnem pri meni se je zadeva poštimala v dobrem tednu.
Glede porabe je tako, da pri vsakem novem avtomobilu je poraba nekaj višja (vsaj po mojih izkušnjah) recimo cca pol litra. Kakšen deci se pri moji vožnji doda še na račun "nenavajenosti voziti dizla :) ". Vozim se recimo 50% avtocesta in 50% relacija+mesto (dnevno okrog 150 km ali več) . Poraba se mi vrti od 6,9 do 7,2 (BC).
Avto vozim običajno med 2 in 3 tisoč obrati (nad 2000 zaradi dpf filtra in pod 3000 ker je še nov).
Slab izdelek sigurno nisi nabavil, vsaj po mojem mnenju. Pred nakupom sem namreč kar precej testiral avtomobile (recimo, da sem avto kupoval skorajda eno leto) podobnih dimenzij in motorjev različnih znamk, pa me je tale mazdin paket: vozne lastnosti-kvaliteta-oprema-cena najbolj prepričal.

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Ne okt 12, 2008 11:33 am

Novi dizelski motor za Mazdo6. Starega dvolitraša zamenjuje MZR-CD 2.2 v treh jakostnih kategorijah: 125, 163 in 185 KM.

Powertrain
• Next-generation MZR-CD 2.2-litre turbo diesel engine that combines Zoom-Zoom power with low emissions and low consumption
• Offered in three power derivatives to meet the needs of a wide range of diesel customers in Europe (according to market and grade):
MZR-CD 2.2 High Power produces 136 kW/185 PS at 3,500 rpm and 400 Nm of torque at 1,800, using only 5.6 litres of fuel per 100 km (combined)
MZR-CD 2.2 Mid Power produces 120 kW/163 PS at 3,500 rpm and 360 Nm of torque at 1,800, using only 5.5 litres of fuel per 100 km (combined)
MZR-CD 2.2 Low Power produces 92 kW/125 PS at 3,500 rpm and 310 Nm of torque at 1,800, using only 5.5 litres of fuel per 100 km (combined)
• New common-rail system with injectors that have 10 holes (unlike injectors in the MZR-CD 2.0-litre engine, which have 6) and higher-response solenoids for power combined with low emissions
• Common-rail injections pressure increased to an industry-leading 200 MPa for power, fuel efficiency and good emissions performance
• Variable geometry, high-efficiency turbo charger with extended and revised nozzle shape for strong torque at low engine speeds and lively engine response
• DOHC diesel engine is chain-driven for compact size and maintenance-free operation
• High-rigidity aluminium lower block combined with low-friction, front chain-drive balancer for low engine noise and refined power delivery
• Newly-developed, high thermal-resistance diesel particulate filter system with unique technology and reduced regeneration timing
• Newly-developed EGR cooler with superior cooling efficiency

Safety
• New rear vehicle monitoring system introduced for all models (according to grade)

An all-new core product of Mazda’s ‘Sustainable Zoom-Zoom’ strategy sees it global premiere at Paris this year; the Mazda6 MZR-CD 2.2-litre turbo diesel. This nextgeneration engine is another example of Mazda engineering expertise delivering high power and torque with low fuel consumption and emissions. Developed exclusively for the Mazda6 line-up in Europe, it will be offered – alongside the current MZR-CD 2.0- litre turbo diesel -- in three power derivatives to meet the needs of a wide range of diesel customers.

The second-generation Mazda6 was market launched to high acclaim at the end of last year in Europe. Its emotional appeal, sporty styling, exclusive driving and quality experience and insightful packaging made it an immediate hit with European customers, selling 41,548 units (as of June 2008) and contributing to several all-time sales records in 2008. It is the second carline – after the 2008 World Car of the Year Mazda2 – to be completely renewed in a process that will replace the Mazda line-up with exciting next-generation products in the near future. Part of this program is the new MZR-CD 2.2-litre common-rail, a Mazda turbo diesel that delivers some of the segment’s best power, fuel economy and operating refinement.

Mazda6 MZR-CD 2.2 DE – even more ‘Kizuna’
The all-new Mazda6 is designed to deliver what its developers call ‘Kizuna,’ which is a strong emotional bond between the car and its owner. This bond is forged by the car’s sporty good looks, its high level of driving enjoyment and its quality. The driving part of this successful equation is now greatly enhanced with the launch of the new MZR-CD 2.2-litre turbo diesel. It is offered in three lively derivatives that produce between 125 and 185 PS of maximum output and powerful torque of 310 to 400 Nm.

All versions feature a variable-geometry turbo charger with vanes on the exhaust side of the turbine that are curved (rather that straight) and longer. On the intake side, a special seal is employed to reduce the clearance between the blade and the compressor housing. This architecture makes the turbo charger low-volume yet highly efficient at delivering robust torque and quick response to pedal input as low as 1,800 rpm.

The new engine also has a new common-rail injection system with four additional holes per injector (10 instead of the usual 6) that are smaller (reduced from 0.13 mm to just 0.119 mm) and help optimise combustion. By improving individual components like the fuel pump, engineers were able to increase the maximum fuel injection pressure to 200 MPa, one of the highest in the industry to date, and successfully adapt it to the engine. This allowed them to further improve the precision of the engine’s injection timing and optimise the number of injections per cycle, the amount of fuel injected and the injection pressure. As a result, the engine achieves higher power and higher response with lower NVH, and excellent fuel economy with fewer emissions. Combined with a chain-driven double overhead cam (DOHC)configuration for smooth and efficient power delivery throughout the rev range, this translates into a marked improvement in acceleration in every gear.

To handle all this power, the new MZR-CD 2.2 turbo diesel has specially-designed aluminium alloy pistons that boast high thermal resistance. A half-Keystone cross-section top-ring with improved carbon scavenging abilities is used as well, and the groove for the top ring is made more durable with the adoption of a cooled ring carrier that increases the groove’s cooling capability. These technologies make Mazda6 MZR-CD 2.2 quick-responding and deliver a strong one-with-the-car driving feel for even more emotional appeal and high levels of ‘Kizuna.’

Mazda6 MZR-CD 2.2 DE delivers ample torque and power
The all-new Mazda6 delivers an ownership experience that is one of the non-premium segment’s most exclusive. The new range-topping Mazda6 turbo diesel enhances this exclusive driving experience with a diesel powertrain that is one of the quietest and most refined in its segment. To achieve this, despite high torque and power, it has a lower block with a very rigid aluminium-alloy structure, with the bottom of the cylinder block skirt and the cylinder block’s main bearing caps bolted to the lower block at 18 separate locations. This high structural rigidity suppresses booming noise and lowers radiated noise, and allowed engineers to optimise pedal response and engine sound for a refined acceleration feel. The cassette-type balance shaft contributes to the reduced noise, vibration and harshness (NVH).

Low Fuel Consumption and Emissions
This new premium diesel engine also meets the requirements of Mazda’s ‘Sustainable Zoom-Zoom’ plan by being frugal at the pump: all power derivatives use between 5.5 and 5.7 litres of fuel per 100 km (combined), some of the segment’s lowest, by employing a newly developed EGR system with a cooler bypass structure, and by utilising the cooling effect from the engine’s lower compression ratio of 16:3. The common-rail injection system uses highly responsive solenoids that achieve a minimum injection interval of just 200 μs (the MZR-CD 2.0 is 300 μs) which speeds up the minimum injection interval by about 30 percent, improves its responsiveness and lowers emissions at the source. A plastic cylinder head cover also enables better oil separation of the blowby gases. In fact, the MZR-CD 2.2L DE is better than the MZR-CD 2.0 DE at this, even though higher power usually translates into more blowby gases.

Mazda’s weight-saving techniques were also applied during development of the MZR-CD 2.2 turbo diesel. The new engine’s oil cooler, for instance, is now made of aluminium rather than stainless steel and the cylinder-head cover is made of plastic.

A newly-developed diesel particulate filter system is introduced that is even better at lowering particulate matter (PM) emissions. This Mazda system employs technology never before used in a production car. It is able to reduce the number of times the PM filter needs to regenerate (in the NEDC mode) by half, and shortens the time necessary for a single regeneration by a third. The new PM filter is made from a ceramic material with high thermal resistance and includes Mazda’s independently developed catalyst. The catalyst uses oxygen stored in the base material, in addition to the oxygen present in exhaust gases, to improve combustion of soot emissions. By increasing the volume of oxygen, this system makes regeneration of the filter faster and more efficient. The result is excellent emissions, without sacrificing performance or driving fun.

Mazda6 – the first Mazda with Rear Vehicle Monitoring System
This year’s Paris Motor Show also sees the introduction of a rear vehicle monitoring system to the Mazda6 line-up. Employing wide-angle, 24 GHz radar, the system is a fully independent active safety feature. When driving at speeds over 60 km per hour, its radar modules located on the left and right side of the car inform the driver of an approaching vehicle that he might not be able to see at that moment, by illuminating an LED lamp in the A-pillar. If the driver operates the turn signal, the LED lamp flashes and a buzzer sounds to warn the driver not to change lanes. It has a range of approximately 50 meters in a wide arc on both sides, and the ability to function effectively even in adverse weather conditions.


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Napisal/-a Bota Ne okt 12, 2008 11:53 am

Še kakšen T bencinar z okoli 160KM pa bo
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Napisal/-a cimbalca Ne okt 12, 2008 8:39 pm

Pa še prevod prosim. Angleško že razumem pa vendar si včasih določene fraze razlagam po svoje.
 
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Napisal/-a Gyga Po okt 12, 2009 11:30 am

Kdo ve mogoce, cigavi so teli 2.2D motorji.

Nekje sem zasledil, da so to Peugeot-ovi motorji. Je to res?

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Napisal/-a vojkostar Po okt 12, 2009 12:17 pm

Res je
medtem ko ima NIsan Renaultove motorje....
 
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Napisal/-a Gyga Po okt 12, 2009 8:15 pm

Zgleda da se motis.
Why does the Mazda 6 get a big 2.2-litre engine? Is this a Ford engine?
The answer to the latter is no, this engine has nothing to do with the Ford-PSA engines. Mazda, despite its tie-ups with the Blue Oval, is still fiercely independent and because the cash was available, decided to build its own engine.


podrobno http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Mazda-6-22D-Sport-2008-CAR-review/
Malo para malo muzike!
Najboljši avto je novi avto!
 
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Napisal/-a Joie de vivre! Po okt 12, 2009 8:18 pm

PSA-jev je nedvomno 1.6-litrski dizelaž v 3, za ostale pa ne vem.
 
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan Po okt 12, 2009 8:46 pm

2.2 MZR-CD je Mazdin lastni motor. Nadomešča starega dvolitrskega dizelaša, ki so ga tudi sami razvili.

http://green.autoblog.com/2008/11/06/ma ... uropean-6/
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Napisal/-a martin_krpan To jan 26, 2010 10:58 am

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Napisal/-a CITROENAR ŠT 1 Sr jan 27, 2010 5:54 am

Ko že misliš, da zunanjost ne more biti lepša pri tej 6-ki, pa vidiš, da je še mogoče, zame še vedno najlepša serijska Mazda :tomidelej: :pivo

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http://blogautomobile.fr/mazda-6-2010-entre-petit-coup-de-nagare-restylage-47642

Uau, ni kaj. :twisted:

Lp
Sir Issac Newton: "To, kar vemo je le kaplja v morje."
Blaise Pascal: "Človekova veličina je v misli."
James Dean: "Dream as if you`ll live forever and live as if you`ll die today."
Spock: "Live long and prosper."

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Napisal/-a martin_krpan So mar 06, 2010 11:56 am

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Napisal/-a CITROENAR ŠT 1 Po mar 08, 2010 8:43 pm

Ne bi se je branil, sam bi rajši 5 vratno kombilimuzino pa bele barve :twisted:

Lp
Sir Issac Newton: "To, kar vemo je le kaplja v morje."
Blaise Pascal: "Človekova veličina je v misli."
James Dean: "Dream as if you`ll live forever and live as if you`ll die today."
Spock: "Live long and prosper."

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Napisal/-a cayzi To mar 09, 2010 12:37 am

mah še vedno tista grda zavorna ročica , pa še vedno premajhen info zaslon.
 
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Napisal/-a cayzi So mar 20, 2010 10:30 pm

Zna kdo od lastnikov 6 podat kaksen komentar kako dobro dela navigacija v tem vozilu če se vzame Navi "namesto" radija?

Kateri SW mazda sploh uporablja za navigacijo - garmin?

Ali se mogoče del potovalnega računalnika tudi prenese na velik zaslon?


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Napisal/-a martin_krpan To okt 19, 2010 5:26 pm

Mazda6 TE Plus z novim bencinskim DISI motorjem

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http://www.auto.cz/test-mazda-6-2-0-disi-52136
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