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Napisal/-a **esem** Pe nov 23, 2007 7:15 pm

Tudi SAIC se pridružuje hibridom. Toda - že letos napovedujejo prodajo čez 1,5 M avtov in ob takem podatku samo 10 T hibridov čez 3 leta zveni bolj kot šala.

SAIC vows to produce 10,000 hybrids by 2010

Shanghai. November 19 (Gasgoo.com) –Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) plans to produce more than 10,000 hybrid vehicles by 2010, a company official said.

"SAIC aims to start volume production of hybrids by 2008 and that capacity will be increased to 10,000 units two years later,” said Wang Dazong, SAIC's new vice president.

SAIC chairman Hu Maoyuan said earlier that SAIC had already produced two dozen EV and hybrid concept vehicles ready for the Olympics next year.

Last week, Shanghai Automobile displayed four new energy or alternative energy vehicle model on the 9th Bibendum new energy vehicle race in Shanghai. The models include a fuel battery-powered sedan and a hybrid sedan both brand-named “Shanghai”, a fuel battery-powered Passat sedan and a hybrid bus. More than 80 models of new energy sedans, buses, trucks and bicycles joined the race.

Automobile production in China is growing so rapidly that it is set to replace the U.S. the world's largest market in the next ten year. However it also raises some environmental concern. Automakers are now pumping investments to develop hybrids to ease environment pressure and reduce oil consumption.

Chery has also just announced that more than fifty percent vehicles produced by Chery will be equipped with hybrid systems by 2010 and half of those vehicles will be powered by new energy.

Earlier in the month, both General Motors, Honda have announced plans to introduce hybrid or alternative energy vehicles in Chinese market.

Honda said it will import its Civic hybrid vehicles to Chinese market by the end of this year and the model will be locally produced at Dongfeng Honda next year.

General Motors chairman Wagoner announced in Beijing earlier this month his company will start local production of Chevrolet brand hybrid vehicle in China next year. The vehicle is developed by the Pan Asia Technical Automotive Center, a joint research facility between General Motors and Shanghai Automotive.

Currently, Toyota Prius is the only hybrid model sold in Chinese market, which started local production by the end of 2005. But the model has not attracted a lot of customers in Chinese market.

Še nekaj novic o produkciji bolj "zelenih" avtomobilov na Kitajskem

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/29 ... hina-with/
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/11/06 ... n-mazda-6/
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/23 ... tric-cars/

Kot zanimivost - 10 najmanj uspešnih avtov na Kitajskem
http://www.gasgoo.com/autobiz/2733/Top1 ... pdate.html

Spletna stran · Napisal/-a **testdriver** So nov 24, 2007 10:41 am

ja bi se dotaknuo changfenga...vozio sam ove modele u rusiji kad sam bio, malo su uzeli maha u prodaji ali to se kreće oko nekih 1000-2000 vozila godišnje dok great wall prodaje između 10000-15000 vozila, baš me iznenadio i ovaj pogon 4x4, tj ta sklopka gdje se pali...jer takvu istu sklopku imaju i stariji modeli great wall-a, evo i slike:
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dolje lijevo u kutu
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a evo i slike i changfenga, vidim da i changfeng ima diesel motor

Napisal/-a **Ivan36** Ne nov 25, 2007 1:10 pm

Evo še neki
http://www.made-in-china.com/Transporta ... Truck.html

In še en čuden model , podoben je stari Seat Ibizi letnik 90 do 93 :shock:

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Napisal/-a **[SlasH]** Ne nov 25, 2007 1:14 pm

Keri avtomobili :bonk

Bo moralo preteči še nekaj časa, da bodo resnično konkurenčni. To kar sedaj delajo so cenene kopije starih in novih modelov vseh znanih znamk.

Napisal/-a **esem** Če nov 29, 2007 5:00 am

Ne vozila ampak trg prihodnosti!
Proizvodnja avtomobilov na Kitajskem je v prvih devetih mesecih narasla (glede na lanskih 9) za 45%. Brilliance je zrastel za 516 %!

Chinese Car Market Up 45% In The First 9 Months Of 2007!

Wednesday, November 28, 2007
It’s crazy but according to data released by JATO, the market for domestically-assembled cars in China grew to 4,417,252 units in the first nine months of 2007, up 45,3% on the reported figures during the same period in 2006! In the third quarter, the Chinese car market reached 1,451,823 units, 44 percent ahead of the same period of last year.
"China continues to demonstrate a voracious appetite for new cars," says Nasir Shah, Global Business Development Director at JATO. "Despite an increasing demand for high quality foreign imports, domestically produced products offer good value for money to the many millions of consumers who are making their first car purchase. -

In terms of brand performance, Volkswagen managed to top the charts in the first nine months of the year with a 30% gain compared to the same period last year. VW was followed by Wuling (it didn’t report volumes in 2006), Toyota (+61,5%), Chery (+43,1%) and Honda (+31,7%).

"The combination of a fast-growing market, significant investment in new products, new brands and improved distribution systems, is all contributing to the significantly increased volumes over the past year," says Shah. "Many brands are up by at least 50%, whilst some have posted extraordinary growth, such as Brilliance, which is up 516%".

China’s top selling vehicles during the fist nine months were the Wuling Light/Sunshine/City Breeze and the Chana Green Star mini-mpvs. In the top 10 list we also find the Volkswagen Santana, Buick Excelle, Volkswagen Jetta, Toyota Camry, Chery QQ, FAW N3, Hafei Zhongyi/Minyi and the Honda Accord

As far as segments are concerned, the lower medium segment is the largest in the Chinese market with a 27.4% share during the first three quarters of the year with the Ford Focus, Nissan Tiida, Haima Family, Chery Cowin and Toyota Corolla leading the charts. The second most popular segment is the upper medium segment with a 20.9% share, led by the VW Santana and Jetta, Buick Excelle, Volkswagen Passat and Hyundai Elantra. The third largest segment are the Mini MPVs with a 17.9% market share led by the Wuling Light/Sunshine/City Breeze, Chana Green Star, Hafei Zhongyi/Minyi, Honda Odyssey and JAC Refine

Vir: JATO

Spletna stran · Napisal/-a **testdriver** Če nov 29, 2007 4:24 pm

evo par slika iz sarajeva, gdje smo imali malu prezentaciju, bilo je 7 auta i nekolicina novinara

Napisal/-a **martin_krpan** Pe nov 30, 2007 6:49 pm

Konec z Audiji? Kitajska vlada je pozvala državne uradnike, naj od sedaj za službena vozila kupujejo avtomobile domačih znamk (in ne licenčne produkte).

China asks government and party officials to take the lead in using local brand cars, according to an administrative notice posted on the web site of Government Offices Administration of State Council.

The notice asks government and party officials to take the lead in using fuel-saving and environmental friendly local brand vehicles. "Government and Party officials are not allowed to use SUV vehicles in principle," the notice said.

In 1999, Chinese government issued restrictive guidelines on government-use cars, which restricts the maximum displacement of luxury cars to 3.0 Liters and maximum price to 450,000 yuan ($60,800).

As luxury cars are becoming cheaper, more and more luxury cars find their into government and party officials.

Chinese newspaper, Beijing News reported that in China's underdeveloped Southwestern region, a county Communist party official drives a 600,000 yuan ($81,000) luxury SUV vehicle-- in 2006, the annual income per capita in that region averages is far below $1,000.

vir: Gasgoo.com

Napisal/-a **hartge** Pe nov 30, 2007 7:06 pm

Jah moje izkusnje s temi avti niso ne vem kaksne. V luki so trenutno Geely in SMA aka Maple car. In se kaj se najde obcasno.

Ima se kdo izkusnje z njimi?

Spletna stran · Napisal/-a **testdriver** So dec 01, 2007 12:50 pm

već ti se gelly i maple prodaju u BIH, to s vjerovatno sve modeli od avtocom-a, oni to dilaju po ovim krajevima, a ok auti, motor baziran na toyoti, večinom su to vozila u kini namjenjni siromašnijem sloju ljudi, tj napraviti jeftinije vozilo a da služi za vozit se od točke A do točke B

kakav audi??? evo im auto za državnike, još zastavice mogu staviti gore kineske
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a utedjeli bi i na gorivu jer ovaj auto inače vozi sedmero ljudi, ali s obzirom na visinu kineza ovdje bi išlo i 10

Napisal/-a **martin_krpan** Ne dec 02, 2007 11:39 am

Po frankfurtskem salonu je Daimlerju uspelo doseči sodno prepoved nastopa smartovega klona - Shuanghuan Noble (oz. njihovem evropskem distributorju Martin Motors) - tudi na bližnjem Bologna Auto Show.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/01/daim ... art-clone/

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Napisal/-a **martin_krpan** So dec 08, 2007 2:33 pm

SUV in pick-up vozila Great Wall Motors.

Safe:
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Sing:

Deer:

Sailor:

Socool:

Pegasus:

Monster:

Napisal/-a **martin_krpan** Ne dec 09, 2007 11:14 am

martin_krpan na strani 18 je napisal/-a:It can’t get weirder than this or can it…
Na Bologna motor show je debitirala še ena italijanska firma - DR Automobili. Predstavili so lastni terenec poimenovan DR3 (3 vratna verzija) in DR5 (petvratnik). Zelo domisleno, zelo... Land Rover. Že sam dizajn ni ravno originalen - vidno je, da so se avtorji odkrito in obilno zgledovali po prejšnjem RAV 4. Zanimiva (in razlog, zakaj o DR pišem v tej temi) je pa predvsem sama izdelava. Karoserijo namreč izdelujejo na Kitajskem, potem jo pripeljejo v Italijo, kjer jo posadijo na platformo in vgradijo Fiatov 1.9 M-jet z 120 KM. Voila! Še ščepec Vegete in kitajsko/italijanski SUV je pripravljen.
Prodaja se začne marca. Začetna cena naj bi se gibala okrog 16.000 EUR.

esem na strani 34 je napisal/-a:Slike (spanishautoblog) so različne in ni jasno, kaj zdaj velja. Morda bo MK razčistil?

To je serijski DR5, katerega karoserijo dobavlja Chery. Trivratna različica (zanjo karoserijske dele kupujejo pri Ufo-ju) še ni naprodaj.

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Motorja sta 1,6 bencinar s 110 KM in fiatov 1,9 JTD s 120 konjev. Serijska oprema vključuje sprednji zračni blazini, ABS, klimo, 16'' alu platišča, radio CD/MP3 z USB priključkom,...

Napisal/-a **martin_krpan** Ne dec 09, 2007 6:05 pm

martin_krpan na strani 33 je napisal/-a:
Druga novost pa so špijonke zanimivega Geelyjevega malčka, pod kodnim imenom Aoo.

Članek v Gasgoo.com, ki pojasnjuje dizajn sprednjega dela - oblikovalci naj bi se zgledovali po Pandi (tisti iz družine medvedov, ne Fiatovi).

China's largest private carmaker Geely Automobile plans to launch a mini-car with its front part resembling a giant panda, the national emblem for China, by August next year, said a company official.

"Geely will launch a model that looks like a giant panda in appearance and that may be the first model to carry our new logo," said Geely's vice president Wang Ziliang.

The model under the codename Lc-1 will be equipped with Geely's self-developed engine and it offers two-door or four-door options. Earlier this month the company just launched its new logo designed by a college student.

In the first ten months of the year, Geely sold 149,843 vehicles, up 12.4 percent from one year earlier. The automaker said on Monday it aims to sell 20,000 vehicles this year and 40,000 vehicles by 2008.

No, z izjemo obraza so ostale linije avtomobila presenetljivo podobne Citroenu C1/Aygo, P107.

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Napisal/-a **Joie de vivre!** Ne dec 09, 2007 6:13 pm

Tale DR je pa kar lepo predelan. Vprašanje je, kolikšna bo cena. Mora biti vsaj 3000€ pod Tusconom in Sportažem.

Napisal/-a **hartge** Ne dec 09, 2007 7:22 pm

Tej avti so za casom bi se reklo. Se jim rabi casa... da nas bodo dohiteli

Napisal/-a **esem** Ne dec 09, 2007 10:27 pm

martin_krpan je napisal/-a:To je serijski DR5, katerega karoserijo dobavlja Chery. Trivratna različica (zanjo karoserijske dele kupujejo pri Ufo-ju) še ni naprodaj.

Na tistem mojem postu je na tretji sliki tudi petvraten, ki pa je drugačen od tvojega (in mojega s prve slike). Kaj je torej ta petvraten s tretje slike? Verjetno je slika s salona - ali pa je to morda orig. Chery?

Napisal/-a **esem** Ne dec 09, 2007 10:30 pm

Joie de vivre! je napisal/-a:Tale DR je pa kar lepo predelan. Vprašanje je, kolikšna bo cena. Mora biti vsaj 3000€ pod Tusconom in Sportažem.

Cene v Italiji so že znane

esem je napisal/-a:Avto začnejo prodajat 12. decembra na 100 mestih v Italiji. Najprej bo 5-vratni 2WD - bencinar (1,6 l, 109 KM, 16V - PSA ?) bo stal 16900 €, dizel (FIAT) bo 21900 € - minus 1000 € promocijskega popusta. Na pomlad pridejo še 3-vratni, 7-sedežni in 4 WD, malo kasneje gre še v Francijo, Španijo, Nemčijo....
Karoserijo (5-vratni - 4,19 m, 3-vratni - <4m) izdeluje Chery.
Oprema solidna (ABS, dvojni airbag, klima, usnje, MP3, električni paket itd.)

Napisal/-a **martin_krpan** Ne dec 09, 2007 10:36 pm

esem je napisal/-a:Na tistem mojem postu je na tretji sliki tudi petvraten, ki pa je drugačen od tvojega (in mojega s prve slike). Kaj je torej ta petvraten s tretje slike? Verjetno je slika s salona - ali pa je to morda orig. Chery?

Druga in tretja fotografija v tvoji objavi prikazujeta še predserijski verziji DR-jev ob njihovi premierni predstavitvi pred enim letom.

Napisal/-a **Joie de vivre!** Ne dec 09, 2007 11:02 pm

esem je napisal/-a:
Joie de vivre! je napisal/-a:Tale DR je pa kar lepo predelan. Vprašanje je, kolikšna bo cena. Mora biti vsaj 3000€ pod Tusconom in Sportažem.

Cene v Italiji so že znane

esem je napisal/-a:Avto začnejo prodajat 12. decembra na 100 mestih v Italiji. Najprej bo 5-vratni 2WD - bencinar (1,6 l, 109 KM, 16V - PSA ?) bo stal 16900 €, dizel (FIAT) bo 21900 € - minus 1000 € promocijskega popusta. Na pomlad pridejo še 3-vratni, 7-sedežni in 4 WD, malo kasneje gre še v Francijo, Španijo, Nemčijo....
Karoserijo (5-vratni - 4,19 m, 3-vratni - <4m) izdeluje Chery.
Oprema solidna (ABS, dvojni airbag, klima, usnje, MP3, električni paket itd.)

22000€? Za ta denar dobiš dizelskiga Tuscona...

Zaenkrat so se še vsi kitajci na evropskih tleh izkazali za totalno nategancijo.

Spletna stran · Napisal/-a **testdriver** Po dec 10, 2007 5:40 pm

meni su te kompanije već pomalo smiješne s time kad počnu montirati vozila na svoju ruku a onda kad to sve treba homologirati problemi i pitaj boga šta kupuješ, evo i primjer onaj KATAY (ZHEIJANG GONOW)
http://auto.ba/index.php?option=com_con ... &Itemid=30
evo šta se događa, ovi auti su bili odbijeni u hrvatskoj zbog homologacije, i onda se proda u bosnu gdje nema homologacijskih propisa, ovaj auto ima motor iz fiat tipa 1.9 d, te je dodana turbina, katalizator i lambda sonda...i jedva udovoljava euro 3 normi,šasije se voze iz kine, motori se ugrade u italiji itd itd...ja to nikad nebi kupio

isto tako je i s ovim dr autima, pogotvo me čudi jer je cherry relativno velika kompanija i da samo tako svoj model TIGGO da im neko od njega pravi svoje skalamerije, praktično te neke manje razvikane kompanije štete ugledu kineza (shanghuan s SCEOM aka x5), kompanija koja radi 50000 vozila, onda landwind s fijaskom na crash testu, onda brillianse koje je relativno velika i jaka kompanija pod utjecajem bmw-a a opet adac iz slomi,poslje je bio novi test ali opet je u svim novinama bila novost...vidi opet kineza, slab rezultat na ncap testu

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