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Napisal/-a esem Če jul 26, 2007 1:10 pm

V zadnjem času se je pojavilo kar nekaj idej novih motorjev, nekatere smo na A.comu že predstavili (npr Scuderi motorje), vendar so še bolj v fazi razvoja. Sedaj sta tudi VW in Mercedes predstavila "HCCI" (homogeneous charge compression ignition) motorje, ki dobesedno združujeta otto in dizel motor, torej združujeta tudi prednosti bencinarjev (čistost) in dizlov (poraba). Pri obeh se gorivo vžge zaradi kompresije, le ob povišanih obremenitvah pomaga svečka. Velika razlika med MB in VW je ta, da VW rabi sintetično gorivo, ki niti še ni razvito (za ind. oz masovno uporabo), medtem ko dela MB "DiesOtto" motor na bencin. MB motor naj bi ob 1.8 prostornini imel 238 KM, 400 Nm navora in v primeru hibridne verzije porabo manj kot 6 litrov - za avto razreda MB S !! Vsekakor se zdi, da bi lahko tovrstni MB motor kmalu prišel v serijo. Več kasneje, na linkih in v citatih.

Mercedes-Benz introduces the DiesOtto - German for HCCI

Posted Jul 25th 2007 12:03PM by Sam Abuelsamid
The very first practical automobile was the 1886 Benz Motorwagen created in Stuttgart by Karl Benz. That first car was powered by a small gasoline fueled engine that ran on a four-stroke cycle developed by fellow German Karl Otto. Later another German, Rudolph Diesel, developed the compression ignition engine that would end up carrying his name and the company that evolved from the work of Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler would be the first to use the type in production in the 1920s.

Now in 2007 Mercedes-Benz is working on bringing the two staple four-stroke engine types of the twentieth century together under the name DiesOtto combining the aspects of the Diesel and Otto cycles. The Mercedes engineers have created a 1.8L gasoline fueled four-cylinder that gets the fuel economy of a diesel. The engine puts out 238hp and 295lb-ft of torque and a mild hybrid system gets better than 39mpg in a vehicle the size of an S-Class. The use of direct injection, variable valve control, turbocharging, have allowed them to create a combination HCCI engine and standard gas engine that operates in compression ignition mode under light loads and spark ignition at other times. This allows it to operate with only a standard three-way-catalyst rather than the expensive diesel after-treatment systems. Now they just need to get it into series production.

[Source: Mercedes-Benz]
Stuttgart – The performance of a gasoline engine, the high torque and fuel economy of a state-of-the-art diesel together with extremely clean emissions: Mercedes-Benz has combined all the advantages of both engine types in its DiesOtto powertrain. The new technology package, which stands for the future of the gasoline engine, includes features such as direct gasoline injection, turbocharging and a variable compression. At the core of this innovation lies the controlled auto ignition, a highly efficient combustion process similar to that of a diesel. By way of another advantage, and in contrast to comparable developments, the Mercedes system requires no synthetic fuels but can be operated using conventional gasoline.
Optimising the internal combustion engine is one of the milestones on the Mercedes-Benz roadmap for sustainable mobility. BLUETEC has already made it possible for Mercedes engineers to make the powerful and economical diesel as clean as the gasoline engine. In the US this technology has already been available in the E-Class since 2006, and it will also become available in Europe from the end of this year. The E 300 BLUETEC will be by far the cleanest diesel in its class, and will meet the requirements of the EU5 exhaust emission standards in full.
"Our next goal will now be to make the gasoline engine as economical as a diesel. All the preconditions for this are provided by our DiesOtto concept, which incorporates the foremost strengths of both the gasoline engine and diesel engine," says Prof. Dr. Herbert Kohler, Head of Group Research & Advanced Engineering Vehicle and Powertrain; Chief Environmental Officer of DaimlerChrysler.
The result of this " marriage " is a four-cylinder unit with a displacement of just 1.8 litres, which combines the strengths of the low-emission gasoline engine with the fuel economy of a diesel. Despite its considerably reduced displacement – downsizing is one of the major factors for achieving a lower fuel consumption – this compact power unit delivers superior performance together with refinement at the level of the luxury class. An output of 175 kW/238 hp and a maximum torque of 400 newton metres are achieved together with the hybridisation a fuel consumption of less than six litres of gasoline per 100 kilometres. This figure by no means relates to a small or compact car, but to a vehicle the size of the current S-Class, with the level of comfort and safety that is typical of a Mercedes.
Mercedes-Benz DiesOtto – a further development of the spark-ignition engine
" In line with the worldwide success of today's diesel engine, vehicles equipped with gasoline engines will continue to have a long-term attraction for many customers and in many markets. Accordingly we are giving our attention to both engine types – including a full hybrid option for diesel and gasoline vehicles, " says Prof. Kohler. Mercedes-Benz is working on its DiesOtto concept with corresponding emphasis. Its key technological features are as follows:

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Downsizing with fewer cylinders and a smaller displacement
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Turbocharging for superior performance
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Direct gasoline injection as a further fuel economy measure
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Controlled auto ignition, a combustion process similar to that of a diesel
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Variable valve control
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A variable compression ratio leading to even better fuel economy and, depending on customer needs and the type of operation,
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A hybrid module with an integrated starter/generator, which makes the drive unit even more economical.

When starting and under full load, the fuel/air mixture is ignited by a spark plug, as in a conventional spark-ignition engine (homogeneous combustion). The controlled auto ignition to which the DiesOtto automatically reverts within its working cycle occurs under partial load conditions, i.e. at low and medium engine speeds.
The result is the very low nitrogen oxide emissions of homogeneous combustion at reduced reaction temperatures. All further emissions control in the DiesOtto engine is by means of a standard three-way catalytic converter. A highly efficient engine management and control system has also been realised to combine the individual sub-systems into a drive concept.
The current prospects for the future of the internal combustion engine reveal its great potential, and show that the new drive concept is a feasible proposition in the mid-term. Some of the intermediate solutions incorporated, e.g. direct gasoline injection, are already in series production at Mercedes-Benz. Others will be gradually integrated into series-production engines until the overall solution has been realised.


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Napisal/-a drugmirko Če jul 26, 2007 1:15 pm

dej skoplji še kej o PSAjevem 600 kubičnem bicilindru... jaz sem, ko sem našu vest, probal pa me je minilo, ker mi je francoščina sovražen jezik...


ga naj bi pa v prihodnjosti, skupej z elektromotorjem vgrajevali v hibride....
živeo drugmirkooooo!!!!
 
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Napisal/-a esem Pe jul 27, 2007 1:28 am

Tudi Honda razvija podoben motor - več tu http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10 ... ng_si.html

Prav tako razvijajo podoben motor na MIT-u - več tu http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/07 ... .html#more

Več o razvoju teh "HCCI" (homogeneous charge compression ignition) motorjev tu http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 093248.htm


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VW releases details on new clean engine design

Posted Jul 10th 2007 8:06AM by Siddharth Raja
Volkswagen already produces some of the most advanced and efficient engines on the market today, but as always, there's room for improvement. That's why VW engineers are hard at work developing a new range of diesel and gasoline powerplants that will combine the benefits of both types of engines to increase power and cut CO2 emissions.

In a recent presentation, VW showed off two new designs that promise higher fuel economy and lower emissions. The first of these is a diesel engine that mixes fuel and air 'homogeneously' inside the engine, which in effect removes any trace of soot and reduces polluting nitrogen oxides.

For petrol heads, VW has created an engine that works by using spark plugs for ignition during start-up and hard acceleration, but can then switch to sparkless compression ignition, like a diesel, during low load situations. The end result is diesel-like efficiency but with cleaner exhaust properties of gasoline engines.

As for dwindling oil stocks, VW has also looked at solving that problem too. In the works is a new synthetic fuel derived from natural gas, but don't get too excited, its makers claim we're still at least a decade a way from the roll out of the new technology.
 
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Napisal/-a IcEm4n Pe jul 27, 2007 12:44 pm

Kaj ma pa mazda eno novo mašino (ne vem kakšen ...... ciklus), mela ga bo mazda 2, ko bo bencinar tud ful mal porabu. Sem bral v Avto-Fokusu neki o tem.
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Napisal/-a esem Pe jul 27, 2007 1:19 pm

Mazda 2 bo na voljo tudi z Miller tipom motorja, kjer se sesalni ventil zapre kasneje - do takrat funkcijo stiskanja običajno opravlja kompresor (d je bolj učinkovit pri tem od bata), nato to naprej opravlja bat kot običajno. Več tu http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/31/mazd ... da2-demio/ in tu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_cycle
 
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Napisal/-a dobek Pe jul 27, 2007 1:28 pm

esem je napisal/-a:Mazda 2 bo na voljo tudi z Miller tipom motorja...



millerja so ze meli pred leti (2,3K v xedosu9), samo se ni ravno dolgo obdrzal :?
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Napisal/-a Wolfgang Ullrich Pe jul 27, 2007 2:08 pm

Me veselijo resnično take zadeve :P , sem tudi sam slišal da bo okrog leta 2018 benzinarji 1.5 prostornine imeli porabo 2.5-2.8 l/100km
 
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Napisal/-a Lumpy_ Pe jul 27, 2007 2:15 pm

Zanimivi ti motorji. Bi blo fajn to met ja.

Sej glede na to kak gorivo viša ceno, bo treba nekaj ukrenit.
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Napisal/-a Doc_ Pe jul 27, 2007 2:42 pm

Lumpy_ je napisal/-a:Zanimivi ti motorji. Bi blo fajn to met ja.

Sej glede na to kak gorivo viša ceno, bo treba nekaj ukrenit.


Viša se kej ga je zmiraj manj..... ;)

sem slišal da tud citroen in peugeot razvijata hibrid... dizel in elekrto motor...
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Napisal/-a IcEm4n Pe jul 27, 2007 5:49 pm

ja, millerjev ciklus sem imel v mislih.
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Napisal/-a esem Ne jul 29, 2007 12:52 am

Mimogrede - precej se dela na tem, da tudi motorji dobijo dizle. Nekaj se jih že prodaja. En naj bi celo imel porabo eno galono za 150 milj (večina am. avtov ima 20-30 milj na galono) oz avtonomijo okoli 1000 km. Več o tem tu http://thekneeslider.com/archives/categ ... otorcycle/ (20 linkov - klikni tudi previous entries).

Razlog za malo digresijo se skriva v zanimivi rešitvi za vibracije in težo dizla, še posebno za dizle z manjšo prostornino. Poglejte najprej sliko

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Dvojna ročična gred !!

Morda bo ideja kmalu uporabljena tudi za električne hibridne avte, kjer bi mali dizel poganjal generator (samo v primeru potrebe po elektriki), avto bodo sicer premikali izključno elektromotorji (tak princip, a na bencin, naj bi gnal Chevy Volt-a).

več tu http://www.neander-motorcycles.com/moto ... /index.php in v citatu

AutoblogGreen je napisal/-a:Neander Motors 1.4 liter diesel motorcycle with twin counter-rotating crankshafts

Posted Jun 30th 2007 5:04PM by Jeremy Korzeniewski
Neander Motors has invested a great deal of time and money in order to "break new ground and to adapt engine power to the modern demands of reducing fuel consumption and emissions to a minimum." This is certainly a worthwhile cause to us here at AutoblogGreen, so I decided to bring you news of their hard work. They have created a small, compact, turbocharged diesel engine. They have also created a new motorcycle (seen above) around this engine to showcase the design and commercialize it. What is so different about the engine? Well, small diesel engines have the nasty habit of being rough around the edges, and they weigh quite a bit in order to reduce those rough edges. Adding mass adds reliability and lowers the "shakiness" of the design, which is important when the device is going to be used by people used to the refinement of today's powerplants.

So, they have designed a system with two counter-rotating crankshafts, along with two connecting rods per piston. Each crankshaft effectively cancels the vibration of the other one, making the engine much smoother. This allows the mass of the engine to be greatly reduced. For a more detailed explanation of the workings, check out their website. It would be nice to see an engine just like this used as the range extending generator in a vehicle like the Volt... running on biodiesel to boot!

[Source: Neander Motors]


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Napisal/-a himi Ne jul 29, 2007 9:08 am

sem tudi sam slišal da bo okrog leta 2018 benzinarji 1.5 prostornine imeli porabo 2.5-2.8 l/100km


Lepo, samo uporabniki ne bomo privarčevali čisto nič, ker bo do takrat tudi cena bencina poskočila na kakih 3-4 eure na liter. Edino za okolje bo bolje, ker bo šlo v zrak manj CO2...tako, da jaz že zaradi tega odločno podpiram razvoj takih novih motorjev!
 
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Napisal/-a esem Če avg 30, 2007 11:08 pm

Kaj pravite na to - s segrevanjem goriva do uplinjanja naj bi večina motorjev imela cca tretjino manjšo porabo (pol več km ob isti količini goriva). Današnji motorji gorivo "sprejajo" v valje v obliki drobnih razpršenih kapljic, če bi gorivo prišlo v valje vplinjeno, bi torej imelo toliko večji izkoristek.
Stvari naj bi bile znane že dalj časa, seveda so ob tem obvezne teorije zarot (raznih naftnih lobijev), postavlja se tudi vprašanje varnosti - večja možnost požarov/eksplozij, npr ob nesrečah itd. Tokrat resen članek iz resnega časopisa (če to kaj pomeni).

več tu http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 43_pf.html
 
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Napisal/-a esem So jan 30, 2010 5:19 am

Nekaj (skoraj) novega - Jag in LR bosta razvijala turboreakcijski motor za povečanje dosega pri električnih hibridnih avtih.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default ... ryId=21417

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Napisal/-a R 26 So jan 30, 2010 8:38 pm

Tud Lotus se je lotil razvijanja HCCI motorjev.
http://www.automobilizam.net/lotus-omni ... ni-motori/

Sem pa bral v reviji Mobil, da je neko nemško podjetje razvilo 3 valjni 5-taktni motor. 2 bat je bil večjega premera kot pa 1 in 3. Imel naj bi neko ločen sistem izpusta izpušnih plinov, vendar me ne držat za besedo, ker sem zgubil revijo. Motor naj bi imel okoli 10% manjšo porabo in manjši izpust emisij.
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