Racing pravi:
http://www.najdi.si/avtomobili/avtopoda ... ype-R+novi

A kdo mogoce kej vec ve od te hodne (tehnicne podatke ipd), men se zdi dost uredu auto, za tako ceno kokr je tm napisana (ce je sploh taprava???), pa kaksn avto se vm zdi?

Civic Type R in Integra TypeR sta povsem druga avtomobila.

Verjetno mislis Integro 2. Ne ve se še če bo pri nas v prodaji. V Ameriki se ze prodaja pod imenom Acura RSX. Nekaj se govori, da bi naj letos le prisla v prodajo tudi v EU.

Imas 2 modela.
Navaden in TypeR

Navaden se prodaja od 20000 USD naprej, ima pa 2.0 motor, 160 konjev, najvecjo moc pri 6500 rpm, najvecji navor pri 4000 rpm.

TypeS stane v USA od 23000 USD naprej, ima pa 2.0 motor, 200 hp, okoli 6.5 sek. do 100, najvecjo moc ima pri 7400 RPM, najvecji navor pa pri 6000 rpm. Rdeco polje se zacne mislim da pri 7900 rpm.

V USA so avtomobili nasploh cenejsi kot pri nas, tako da racunaj da bo osnovni model Integre 2 stal okoli 6 miljonov, TypeR pa se dober miljon polek. Prvo pa je sploh vprasanje ce se bo v EU prodajala - zaenkrat se ni nic uradno potrjeno.



[Sporočilo uredil/a Forsythe na dan 02.01.2003 ob 21:58 GMT]

Na zahtevo uporabnika smo prispevek izbrisali.

GFors pravi:
Men se zdi, da bo mel 220 konjev .

Ja, za japonski trg. Acura RSX TypeS se v USA prodaja z 200 konji. Honda S2000 ima za jap. trg 250 konjev, MX-5 jih ima 160 itd. Torej imajo jap. avti delani za japonsko vec konjev kot pa drugje. Predvsem zaradi drugace nastavljene elektronike, ker imajo tam vec oktansko gorivo. MX-5 japan spec ima tudi druge sesalne kolektorje se mi zdi.

Tehnicni podatki:

Acceleration (0-60 mph): 6.7 sec.
Braking Distance: 128 ft.
Base Number of Cylinders: 4
Base Engine Size: 2 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 200 hp
Max Horsepower: 7400 rpm
Torque: 142 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 6000 rpm
Drive Type: FWD
Turning Circle: 38.1 ft.

Exterior:

Length: 172.2 in.
Width: 67.9 in.
Height: 54.7 in.
Weight: 2778 lbs.
Wheel Base: 101.2 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.9 in.

Interior:

Front Head Room: 37.8 in.
Front Hip Room: 51.1 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 52.6 in.
Rear Head Room: 30.1 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 51.3 in.
Rear Hip Room: 46.7 in.
Front Leg Room: 43.1 in.
Rear Leg Room: 29.2 in.
Luggage Capacity: 17.8 cu. ft.
Maximum Seating: 4

Fuel Data
Fuel Tank Capacity: 13.2 gal.

EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)

Manual: 24 mpg / 31 mpg

Range in Miles: (City/Highway)

Manual: 316.8 mi. / 409.2 mi.



[Sporočilo uredil/a Forsythe na dan 03.01.2003 ob 09:46 GMT]

sam zakaj je pa pol an unmu urlju, pa cena zravn? emm mislu sm un avto k sm ga na zacetku napisu..nvem ker je to. a ti mogoce delas na ac mobil?

Racing pravi:
sam zakaj je pa pol an unmu urlju, pa cena zravn? emm mislu sm un avto k sm ga na zacetku napisu..nvem ker je to. a ti mogoce delas na ac mobil?

Tisti avto ki si ga omenil in dal link je nova Honda Integra, v USA pa se prodaja pod imenom Acura RSX.

Torej na najdi.si je napaka da napisejo Civic Integra TypeR, ker sta Civic in Integra povsem razlicna modela.

Ta cena (5.1 miljona) je za Civica TypeR. Ima 2000 ccm in 200 konjev.

Slika Civica TypeR:


Tu mas test in opis Acure RSX (oz Honde Integre 2):


2001-2002 Sport Coupe Comparison Test
First Place - 2002 Acura RSX Type-S
By Brent Romans
Last updated: 2002-02-20

When it comes to making sport coupes and hatchbacks, very few companies seem to "get it" more than Honda. Ever since the mid- to late-'80s, Honda has been the go-to automaker for fun-to-drive cars that are nimble, enjoyable and easy on the wallet. The Civic and Acura Integra are currently kings of the modern hot-rod movement and have a huge aftermarket backing. So should it come as any surprise that the Acura RSX is the winner of this test?

If you're not familiar with the RSX name, don't fret. This is the 2002 replacement for the Integra. It seems "Integra" didn't fit in with Acura's desire to have alphanumeric names for all of its products. While the name will be missed, the Integra itself was certainly ready for AARP membership and retirement to Orlando. The RSX is, thankfully, a better car in nearly every way.

We picked the high-output RSX Type-S for this comparison. The Type-S trim, among other things, adds a 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine. Featuring the latest version of Honda's VTEC variable valve timing system (called i-VTEC), the Type-S engine manages to crank out 200 hp at 7,400 rpm and 142 lb-ft of torque at 6,000 rpm. This power is then routed to the front wheels via a six-speed manual transmission.

The RSX dominated the acceleration tests, earning a 0-to-60 time of 6.7 seconds and going past the quarter-mile mark in 15.2 seconds at 92.7 mph. This is faster than any of the other cars (except the Mustang and Camaro, of course).

If the RSX has a nemesis, it's the Celica. Each makes 100 hp per liter from its advanced engine, and each has a six-speed. The RSX does have an advantage of 20 more horsepower and 16 more lb-ft of torque, but it's also about 200 pounds heavier.

Given the nearly equal power-to-weight ratios, the cars should have had nearly equal acceleration times. A likely explanation for the RSX's quicker times is the difference in shifter quality. The RSX's shifter throws are short and precise, allowing faster shifts. One item in our 20-point evaluation category rates transmission performance. The Acura earned the highest score; the Toyota earned the lowest.

The RSX's advantages end with acceleration, however. Sixty-to-0 mph braking takes 128 feet, a figure the RSX must unceremoniously share with the Eclipse as the longest distance in the test. Slalom testing is equally unimpressive; the Celica, Eclipse and GTI bettered the Acura's 64.9 mph speed. This is partially due to the RSX's average-sized 205/55R16 tires.

At the racetrack, the RSX manages to compose itself and put together lap times that are faster than most of the group's. Its horsepower and easy-to-drive nature allow drivers to string together quick lap sessions. The thick steering wheel rim has a small diameter, allowing for quick driver inputs. The flat surfaces of a racetrack are also kind to the Acura's suspension, and the car feels controlled and balanced as it carves through corners.

This is not necessarily the case on canyon roads, as the car's new compact double wishbone rear suspension has a difficult time absorbing bumps. This can cause an unsettling feeling for the driver when bumps are encountered mid-corner. We have noticed this problem on the Honda Civic, a car with which the RSX shares its basic suspension design. Driven over the same pavement, the older Prelude, thanks to its full double wishbone suspensions front and rear, manages to feel more secure and under control.

On city streets, this suspension-tuning quirk rarely shows itself, and the RSX manages to be an enjoyable, though not outstanding, companion. Our major gripe concerns the exterior styling. Yes, of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that jive, but that won't stop us from telling you we don't like it. One editor commented that when he looks at the RSX all he sees is "a Civic with unimaginative headlights." He further said that, "The car couldn't be more plain and featureless."

The cabin is certainly better. Thickly bolstered leather seats are standard with the Type-S trim, and they offer good support all around. There are no adjustable headrests, however, and a driver's armrest is MIA. According to the spec sheets, the RSX has the least amount of rear headroom. True enough, it is tight and any regular-sized adult will find his head rubbing on the rear hatch's glass. Legroom is adequate, though, and most of our editors thought the actual seats were comfortable. Accessing the rear seats is difficult as the passenger-side seat is hard to move out of the way.

Like other Acura products, nearly every feature is standard. This includes side airbags, antilock brakes, a six-disc CD changer, keyless entry, a one-touch up-and-down driver's window, auxiliary audio controls on the steering wheel, a power moonroof and automatic climate control.

Some automatic climate controls we've encountered are difficult to figure out, but not the Acura's. They are very easy to use, as are the audio system's controls. We also like the silver-faced gauges and the big glove box. We don't like Acura's following the Honda tradition of placing the cruise control activation and moonroof buttons on the left side of the dash, however. Some of us also think the plastics used for the dash and doors should be of higher quality given the car's "luxury brand" status.

Because of these faults, the RSX is perhaps not the home run some people would have liked it to be, considering the fact that Acura had from '94 to '01 to come up with an Integra replacement. But in the end, it is clearly the best front-drive sport coupe on the market. Like other Honda and Acura products, the RSX expertly blends performance, comfort and features into a package that costs less than most of the competition. If you're looking for a sport coupe that can do it all, the RSX will be happy to please.

SECOND OPINONS:

Editor-in-Chief Karl Brauer Says:
I was afraid Acura would screw up the Integra when the company finally redesigned it, but I'm happy to report that my fears were unfounded...mostly. The RSX can lay claim to the best shifter in this class. It's also got sublime steering and a powerful engine with a refreshingly wide power band (did you hear that, Toyota?). Luxury has also been addressed so as not to betray those Acura badges. Automatic climate control was a welcome surprise, as was a six-disc in-dash CD changer and a one-touch up-and-down driver's window.

So what's with my "mostly" comment? The biggest problem I have with the RSX is its looks. While the Integra never made me think "Honda" when seeing one on the street, the RSX simply screams "upgraded Civic." I'm also not a fan of the rear suspension, which transmitted bumps into the cabin with a loud "thud" when driving on public roads. I still think it's the best sport coupe around, especially considering the price/content relationship. I just wish it offered a more upscale appearance.

Associate Editor Liz Kim says:
What a fun little speedster! The RSX really appealed to me, even though I felt like I was being unfaithful to the memory of the dearly departed Integra. Although I prefer the looks of the second-generation Integra, the RSX is still slick and much more appealing than the more edgy and polemical Celica. And the package is so much more livable than the Toyota's. The fit and finish is better, and the 200 ponies from the engine are much more accessible than those of the Celica's high-strung four-cylinder. The shifter's much easier to use, as well; it's more of a joy than a chore.

The only issue I have with the RSX is the weird rear suspension hop over bumps; I'm assuming that it has to do with the newfangled compact design. While it didn't upset the chassis too badly, this definitely wasn't a ride characteristic of the front-and-rear double wishbones of the Integra. Steering is perfect, but the Celica transmitted more road feel. Overall, however, it's gonna be the gold standard for sport coupes, and it's the one that I'd lay my money down on.

[Sporočilo uredil/a Forsythe na dan 03.01.2003 ob 10:54 GMT]

GFors pravi:
Men se zdi, da bo mel 220 konjev .

GFors: V USA se ne prodaja CTR, tam imajo najmocnejsega Civica s 160 konjevi. Bom preveril kateri motor ima Acura RSX TypeS - mozno da ima enak motor kot pri nas CTR, glede na to da ima 2000 ccm in 200 km. Ker jaz sem tudi bil informiran da bi naj nova Integra imela 220 konjev, moti pa me da jim ima RSX samo 200 km..

[Sporočilo uredil/a Forsythe na dan 03.01.2003 ob 10:53 GMT]

sam to prov ni fer, tm 220hp, tukej pa 200. sam more bit pa ta auto prov hud...samo nevem kje vidjo logiko, da ga ne prodajajo v evropi, sigurn bi se dobr prodajov.

Na zahtevo uporabnika smo prispevek izbrisali.

Racing pravi:
sam to prov ni fer, tm 220hp, tukej pa 200. sam more bit pa ta auto prov hud...samo nevem kje vidjo logiko, da ga ne prodajajo v evropi, sigurn bi se dobr prodajov.

Vecina jap. avtov je na japonskem mocenjsa. Tam imajo 101 ali 102 oktansko gorivo in ze zaradi tega imajo drugace nastavljeno elektroniko. Pa tudi ponavadi najboljse zadrzijo za sebe.

Integra 2 se pri nas naj nebi prodajala, da nebi bilo prevec Hond na razpolago v priblizno enakem cenovnem razredu. Tudi vec modelov je, vec rezervnih delov morajo imeti na zalogi itd. Ceprav se meni ta izgovor zdi brezvezen.

GFors pravi:
FAk ej, men se pa teh 220 konjev tok lepo sliš . Kaj pa zdej kej počnejo z Accordom Type-R? A se že ve, če bo pršu v Evropo, ali bo k nam prišel samo Euro-R (stopnja opreme na navadni mašini)?

Accord TypeR se niti na japonskem ni prav vzunaj, tako da kako bo z njim pri nas se še ne ve.