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HYUNDAI razvija novo generacijo "supervzdržljivih"

Napisal/-a INFINITI Sr maj 19, 2004 9:07 pm

Hyundai develops long-life 4-cylinder engine
Powertrain also will be used by Chrysler
By Rick Kranz
Automotive News / May 10, 2004

Designed in Korea

Highlights of the 4-cylinder engine family
Assembly sites: 5 factories; Korea, Japan, United States
Global annual production target: 2 million-2.5 million
Features: Aluminum head, block; plastic intake manifold, head cover; maintenance-free timing chain; variable valve timing; balance shaft

GYUNGGI-DO, Korea - A high-tech engine family with a planned 300,000-mile life span will replace nearly all four-cylinder engines at the Chrysler group, Hyundai Motor Co. and Mitsubishi Motors Corp.

Developed by Hyundai, the engine family has three displacements, 1.8, 2.0 and 2.4 liters. Turbocharged versions also will be available, along with a liquid-propane version that at least Hyundai will offer. All versions will be equipped with variable valve timing to improve fuel economy and reduce emissions. North American production begins next year in Dundee, Mich.

The new engines will make the Chrysler group's small cars and some other vehicles more fun to drive, providing more horsepower and torque than the Chrysler group's current four-cylinder, which is 11 years old.

Ironically, details of the engine family are emerging as the partnership that made it possible - involving DaimlerChrysler AG, Hyundai and Mitsubishi - is falling apart.

Long life span

Hyundai engineers set a target of 300,000 miles without a major failure, twice the Big 3 target for most engines. But the 300,000-mile target will not be reached for three or four years, says Lee Hyun Soon, Hyundai senior executive vice president for powertrains.

"Some of the component suppliers will not be meeting the target" when Hyundai begins assembly of the engines this year in Korea, Lee says. Some suppliers will require as many as four years to upgrade their plants to meet the higher quality targets.

Hyundai's previous four-cylinder engine had a 180,000-mile target, Lee says. He was interviewed at a Hyundai press event in Gyunggi-Do, Korea, two weeks ago.

Lee says by the time each supplier reaches the quality targets, combined worldwide engine production by the three automakers is expected to reach 2.5 million annually.

Lee says Hyundai reached the 300,000-mile goal by aiming for "tighter quality control, tighter tolerances. Usually we can do that, but it pushes up the costs. But now we have volume to cut costs so we can give (higher specifications) to the supplier."

Lee, a Korean, received master's and doctorate degrees from the State University of New York and worked on advanced engine research for General Motors. He joined Hyundai in 1984.

Hyundai in charge

Lee says the three automakers will assemble the same engines using the same basic components. Some suppliers will differ because of logistical costs, Lee says.

"We control all of the engineering specs," Lee says. "Neither Mitsubishi nor Chrysler can change that because we would like to keep commonality so we can share components."

Chrysler's newest engines are engineered for 150,000 miles without a major failure, says Bruce Coventry, president of Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance in Dundee, Mich. The alliance is the joint venture formed by DaimlerChrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi to produce the engines.

The alliance will continue even though DaimlerChrysler decided last month not to provide a multibillion-dollar cash infusion to Mitsubishi. DaimlerChrysler also plans to sell its 10.5 percent stake in Hyundai.

Coventry would not provide a mileage target for the engines.

The engines will be used in Chrysler group vehicles such as the next-generation Dodge Neon and Stratus and eventually in the automaker's minivans and low-end Jeeps. They also will be used in Mitsubishi vehicles.

The Dundee site will have two engine assembly plants, capable of producing a combined total of 840,000 engines. The first Dundee engine plant will open in June 2005. The second will follow in 2006.

Hyundai in Korea will begin engine production this year. Kia Motors Corp., owned by Hyundai, is building another plant for the engines in Korea, and Mitsubishi is constructing a plant in Japan.
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Napisal/-a INFINITI Če maj 20, 2004 12:27 am

Evo še enkrat je presenetljivo kako se Hyundai hitro razvija - še ne toliko nazaj so delali skropucala po imenu Pony, potem so pobasali Mitsubishijeve motorje, sedaj pa kaže da bo celo Mitsu kupoval motorje od Hyundaija - not bad. Pa še letos so splezali na drugo mesto kar se tiče kvalitete skupaj z Hondo so takoj za Toyoto. Res upam da bojo dotični "theta" motorčki zaživeli v Coupeju in zamenjai z turbo varijanto tisto požrešno lenobo od 2.7 V6, ki jo vgrajujejo sedaj - sm hotu zamenjat ko je pršu ven pa sem se razočaral nad motorjem
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Napisal/-a RegY Če maj 20, 2004 1:01 am

hyundai ownz ya :D

že merđoti pa take mrcine se bojo furali s hyundai motorji

še en dokaz, da hyundai ni krneky ;)

* RegY ponosen, da vozi hyundai :D
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Napisal/-a Njoko Če maj 20, 2004 9:52 pm

Ja, lepo je videt, da se Hyundai trudi.
300.000 milj je pa kar orenk dobra rec. Za Toyoto vem, da nacrtuje motorje za evropski trg, da zdrzijo najmanj 175.000 milj brez okvare, ki bi zahtevala servisni poseg v samo notranjost motorja (znanstvena definicija za "major engine breakdown"). Ce bo Hyundai zacel te nove masine vgrajevat tudi v avte ranga Getz in Accent za nas trg, bo super. Samo naj si omislijo tudi kakega spodobnega turbo dizela na to temo. Vsi trenutni Hyundajevi turbo dizeli pijejo preprosto prevec.

Ne smemo pa pozabit, da motor ni vse. Morajo tudi druge reci zdrzat, npr. menjalnik, katerega popravila tudi lahko pomenijo ekonomsko totalko.

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Napisal/-a INFINITI Če maj 20, 2004 10:02 pm

V getzu ne bo omenjenih motorjev ker je najmanjša litraža 1.8. Drugače pa če praviš da toyota šele načrtuje 175.000 milj motor pol zaostaja za Hyundaijem, kot lahko prebereš v textu ima hyundai že sedaj motorje dizajnirane za 180.000 miljski life-span
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Napisal/-a lucky Pe maj 21, 2004 6:32 am

Prosim lepo.....pony sploh ni bil skropucalo.......to je bil naš prvi hyundai in je zdržal mislim da 240.000 km (160 pri nas in ostalo pri drugemu lastniku) pol pa ne vem kje je končal........in to brez ene napakice, samo redni servisi....stal je pa malček več kot jugo, imel je pa noter vse od elektrike.....

drugače pa jaz sem z mojim accentom glede kvalitete kar zadovoljen. Edino kar res zamerim hyundaiem je to, da ne znajo narest eno konkretno mašino, hvalijo se, da imajo pripravlen motor 2.0 turbo z 300 konji, samo zakaj ga ne vgradijo v kak avtek mi pa ni jasno. Pa manjka jim kak mali strup, npr. accent z vsaj 150 km ali podobno.......
 
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Napisal/-a mazda-mx3 Pe maj 21, 2004 7:02 am

jaz sem tudi mnenja da pony ni bil taka katastrofa...ravno nasprotno..stric ga ima ze full let, dejansko odkar je prisel ven, pa ga noce zamenjat, ker nima tezav z njim, obema sestricnama je kupil nova avtomobila, svojega pa noce dat stran :D

Drugace glede kvalitete azijskih avtomobilov.....evropski un USA avti nimajo 3 leta ali 100k km garancije..bo ze en razlog.
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Napisal/-a RegY Pe maj 21, 2004 9:41 am

lucky je napisal/-a:Pa manjka jim kak mali strup, npr. accent z vsaj 150 km ali podobno.......


recimo stari accent GT (prepoznaven po treh vratih) s 168KM ?

DUUUUUH

svašta rodi majka, ti kažem ;) :D pa če je hyundaijeva še bolj hudo ;)
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Napisal/-a [SlasH] Pe maj 21, 2004 10:24 am

RegY je napisal/-a:že merđoti pa take mrcine se bojo furali s hyundai motorji



:lol:
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Napisal/-a lucky Pe maj 21, 2004 3:21 pm

ma kiri GT.........jan nebi vedu, da obstaja kak accent z tolkimi konji? največ kar jih ima je 105 oz 110 (ampak pol se tolk teža avta poveča da se jih ne čuti). V glavnem accent 1.5 gt kot jaz vem ima samo glavo DOCH , prednji spojler in pa pragove ter 185 gume........če pa obstaja kej več, Regy mi pa dej prosim link (če ga imaš) pošlji, da se tudi jaz malček izopbrazim....

je pa nekoč bil scoupe 1.5 turbo z nekaj manj kot 130 km.

p.s. jmene žal ne bo na srečanju v lescah.....
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