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Pridružen: To jul 31, 2012 12:57 pm

Nissan X-Trail zanesljivost ????

Napisal/-a TurboD To jul 31, 2012 1:10 pm

Pozdravljeni,

gledam rabljene Nissane X-Trail letnik od 2003-2005. Zanimajo me problemi z dizli. Vem, da veliko izmed vas nima problemov z dizli vgrajene v x-Traile, pa vseeno sem zbegan. Po tujih forumih je veliko kritike na račun dizlov 2.2 dci, še posebej na račun Renault dizlov.. YD22DDTi dizli naj bi bili 100% od Nissana.
Ali mi lahko nekdo pove, od kdaj naprej ima Nissan X-Trail pod haubo Renault dizel 2.2 dCi. Ali se kvarijo 136KM ali 115KM ali oboji? Kako je z zanesljivostjo Nissanovih YD22DDTi dizlov. In če je še kje dobra duša, da mi zaupa. koliko stane popravilo, če gre pumpa, turbina ali intercooler?
Ali je smiseln nakup 115KM dizla, glede na to, da nimam nekih hudih offroad želja.
Avto se mi dopade, vendar me počasi mineva želja po nakupu zaradi vseh prebranih slabih kritik.

Kar nekaj vprašanj se je nabralo pa vseeno hvala za vaše odgovore in lep pozdrav vsem skupaj.
 
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Re: Nissan X-Trail zanesljivost ????

Napisal/-a Skubic To jul 31, 2012 1:41 pm

Živjo!
Mi mamo doma 2.2 dci s 100KW (136KM), kode motorja pa sicer ne vem. Letnik je 2004, kupljen pa 2006 od prvega lastnika. Oprema je sport, s strešnim spojlerjem, kateri je meni osebno obvezen, da avto lepo zgleda. Do sedaj nobenih problemov, avto ima okoli 170k km. Moči je dovolj, 6 prestav, čeprav vožnja po AC s 130+ zna bit zelo potratna. Zafrkava samo malo plovec/kazalec za gorivo. Vozi ga fotr, ki ni tok zahteven voznik, ampak drugač je avto prou fajn, edino notranjost je pač malo posebna - tudi "traktorska". Ta novi model je precej bolj obdelan. Pogonu tudi nič ne manjka za pozimi in makedamske poti. Je pa res, da je težišče ful visoko in posledično se precej nagiba, sploh ob hitrejši vožnji čez ovinke... Servisira se pa samo na original nissanu - krulc moravče.
Na kratko.
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Re: Nissan X-Trail zanesljivost ????

Napisal/-a TurboD Pe avg 03, 2012 4:54 pm

Ali so tudi kakšna slaba mnenja, graje?
 
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Re: Nissan X-Trail zanesljivost ????

Napisal/-a Cefizelj Pe avg 03, 2012 7:10 pm

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/nissan/x-trail-2001/

On early 112bhp 2.2 diesels, listen for timing chain/tensioner rattles and check for losing power. Noticeable between 1,500 and 2,000rpm. Rattling timing chains caused by fracture of the timing chain guides inside the chain cover on some but not all 112bhp 2.2 litre diesels. May also see white smoke. Seizing of diesel pump due to lack of lubricity in the fuel can snap the chains of all 2.2 diesels.

Reports of injector and ECU problems on 2.2 136s. Further reports of turbo failures on 136PS 2.2i diesel, possibly because drivers are not letting them spool down by idling the engine for a minute or two from red hot. TSB to replace failing 'Power Boost Sensors' that can also lead to turbo failure.

GOOD NEWS: In 2009 Nissan extended the warranty on the diesel's turbo to 5 years or 90,000 miles.

Reason for engine problems may well be that engine air filters are not routinely changed at services and, of course, on any diesel engine, they need to be. Failure of intercooler common. Large number of turbo, intercooler and general quality problems have led me to withdraw my recommendation of the car.

Another reason for turbo failure is down to the intercooler having compressed connections as opposed to the welded connections now used.

The following applies to Renault 1.5DCI engines, but may explain why the diesel turbochargers fail: The EGR valve should open to allow carbon dioxide (which acts as a cooling gas) into the combustion chambers when the engine is under load (>30% boost). This allows the combustion chamber temperature to drop and thus the temperature of the exhaust gases. If it sticks in the closed position the exhaust gas temperature will rise causing a) the turbo bearings to fail and b) engine oil into the induction system. This can cause the engine to run on its crankcase oil until it is either stalled or goes bang. Problems with EGR valves are often the cause of rough running when the valve is stuck in the open position as well. In several cases turbos have blown but the EGR valve has not been replaced. Inevitably the new turbo unit will not last long.

Problem on overrun on EU4 136bhp diesels between 2,000 and 2,400rpm.

Unusually the X-Trail is fitted with twin tanks. So if a diesel X-Trail is accidentally part-filled with petrol it means draining both tanks. (The tops can be accessed from inside the car.) Check rear wheel arches for rust.

On 2.5 petrol models the exhaust manifold is prone to corroding around the lambda sensors and starts to leak. As the manifold includes a catalytic converter the cost of replacement is around £1,500.

Rubber sealing strips on bottoms of doors wear away down to the metal spring clips which rust and scrape the paint off the door sills.

New problem notified in October 2007 is failure of the fuel tank lifter pump.

Diesel rattle on engine overrun is caused by the solenoids managing the fuel feed not shutting down when you take your foot off the pedal. It allows excess fuel into the injectors which continue to operate. Specialist Diesel Engineers recognise this problem with the X Trail and also with some Toyota diesels. Seems that the problem is more common with cheaper fuels (less lubricant) and can be assisted (cured) by liberal helpings of quality fuel additives.

Just one report (so far, in December 2009), of the fuel tank lining of a 68k mile 2003 X-Trail diesel breaking up and the bits wrecking the fuel pump. Understandable if filled with petrol in error. Surprising otherwise.

26-7-2011: Apparently, any X-trail with the sequence T30 in its VIN number will be inferior to those with T31... which suggests that they changed turbo manufacturer/supplier at that juncture.


VIR: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/nissan/x-trail-2001/?section=bad
 
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Pridružen: So avg 04, 2012 12:35 pm

Re: Nissan X-Trail zanesljivost ????

Napisal/-a smart entrance So avg 04, 2012 12:46 pm

Zdravo,

Motor 2,2 DDTi je 100% Nissan motor, ki ima zelo malo težav.

Redko se dogaja: Puščanje intercoolerja, zatikanje elektroventila na VT pumpi (pomanjkanje moči) in turbina.
Same VT pumpe (Denso) skoraj nikoli ne crknejo.

Pomembno je redno servisiranje.

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Re: Nissan X-Trail zanesljivost ????

Napisal/-a Vikking Po apr 29, 2013 6:58 pm

Zanima me če ima kdo še izkušnje z 2.2dci motorji (136km) v xtrail-u. Zanesljivost, problemi...?

Kakšne kvalitete je x-trailov pogon?
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