po moje je to tak, v 5 minutah za 5 minut :P

http://www.lindempa.si/pbox.html check it...out =) vgrajanje čipa traja 5 min pa dobiš + 20 HP-30 HP

Da vam nau vzglavnikov polomil. Še tabletko za manjšo porabo kupiš, pa maš dragster.

Stvar deluje..

eh to je le kešna zlo boga, cheap verzija piggy-back modula,ki je nebi probavu.takih in podobnih stvari je blo že miljon na internetu.stvar samo sperminja vrednost senzorjev na motorju da računalnik več benza šprica......

ManIAK je napisal/-a:Stvar deluje..

... Takole :
A Simple Explanation Of How It Works

Have you ever noticed that your car is quicker when it is cold outside and wondered why it could not always be that quick? Well this module once fitted sends a signal to the ECU just like it does when it is cold, then the ECU slightly adjusts the air/fuel mixture which boosts your cars power, it is very simple! The best thing is economy is not increased and can be improved with the fitment of this module!

It can also be removed for MOT's, Services etc if needed within 1 minute and refitted with no adverse effects, meaning you can take it out when you like!


... To je njihova razlaga v resnici pa je to še en način da zaslužiš na nevednosti ljudi :

... v resnici ta upor poveča na osnovi upora podatek da je zrak drugačen - hladnejši in zato elektronika injectiona doda gorivo vendar na lambda sondi dobi preveč goriva in vrne spet nastavitev na pravilno zaradi tega stalnega spreminjanja je delovanje nemirno motor se zaletava in zaradi presežkov goriva lahko zgori predčasno katalizator in prdne elektronika ...

L.p. Mad

Ta stvar je ena od redkih ki zares deluje!
Jaz sem mel, na vr-u namontirani kar dve in je bila razlika več kot občutna!
Tak da vam to priporočam, ker zares izboljša performanse!

dve na enkrat? wtf? kva pa poraba?

Gti-Driver je napisal/-a:Ta stvar je ena od redkih ki zares deluje!
Jaz sem mel, na vr-u namontirani kar dve in je bila razlika več kot občutna!
Tak da vam to priporočam, ker zares izboljša performanse!

Preberi si :
http://www.carbibles.com/fuel_engine_bible.html

The "+20bhp chip" conversion
Status : Untested
This is a great scam doing the rounds of ebay in Europe. Search for "mod + 20 bhp" and you'll see literally hundreds of these things going very cheaply. (Better still click here to pop up a new browser window with the search in it). If you are suckered into buying one of these, you'll get a kit containing a resistor that you connect to the positive line of your air intake temperature sensor. The idea is that it fools the ECU into thinking the air charge is colder than it actually is. So why does they claim this works? The claim is that the ECU will be fooled into increasing the fuel in the fuel-air mixture making the engine rev better, and adding 20bhp to the power.
Of course like all these scams, that's not quite the case. First of all, it's the air which would make the engine run better, not the fuel. That's why turbos and superchargers push more air into the cylinders. By running more fuel, you basically run a richer engine which makes the engine run cooler. As well as that, all EFI engines have lambda sensors to measure the actual fuel-air ratio and the ECU takes this reading and adjusts the fueling accordingly. It doesn't simply do it from the intake air temperature. So if you fit one of these devices, this is what happens:
1. The ECU gets a reading from the IAT, and adds more fuel.
2. The Ecu then gets the actual fuel-air ratio info from the lambda sensor, realises it's over fueling and cuts the amount of fuel it puts in.
3. The cycle repeats until the excess fuel totally destroys your expensive catalytic convertor.
4. The ecu will also adjust the igniton timing everytime it gets new info. This means the ignition map is constantly changing which could eventually cause the engine to knock/pink, but will certainly make it run rougher than a tractor.

As with most of these scams, there's a Q&A associated with them designed to make you believe the device will work. In this case, it looks something like this. I've debunked each Q&A on a per-item basis.

What is this Device? It is a resistor chip that gives out a constant reading of air temperature to your ECU.
Sorry, it isn't. It's a 40¢ resistor that lowers the voltage coming from the sensor. A chip is made of silicon and has many layers of circuitry laid out in it, and it requires a special plug - similar to the chip inside your PC or the ECU in the car.

Will my car accelerate faster with this electronic device? Yes! This is the whole point! It has been dyno proven that this device will add up to 20 HP to your vehicle!
Really? Because the dyno graphs on e-bay are so obviously faked that I'd believe an untrained 3-year-old could do a better job. I'd like to see actual proof of this from a reputable dyno shop.

Will this device damage my car? Absolutely not. Since the altered signal will always stay within the manufacturer's specifications, there is no way for your engine to get damaged in any way.
Yeah - not technically true. You are fooling the engine into thinking it has a cooler air charge, therefore the fueling will be altered beyond the manufacturers specification for the given air temperature, and that could damage your engine.

Like I've said above in this page - if this really worked, why wouldn't the car manufacturers simply re-map their ECUs to perform like this? Or add this resistor to their circuits themselves? Simple - because it does not work.

Hum. Avto bolj potegne ko je hladno zaradi gostote zraka in vlage v njem. Mogoče jim ni nihče povedal, samo motor da manj moči iz sebe s preveč bencina

Tole močno dvomim da pomaga na dynotu, na rit pa tko vemo da zračen filter doda 15km...

TITan je napisal/-a:Mogoče jim ni nihče povedal, samo motor da manj moči iz sebe s preveč bencina

Normalno razmerje med zrakom in bencinom je 14.7:1(gledano v kilogramih). Z bogatejso zmesjo mislim da se pridobi nekaj moci

Gti-Driver je napisal/-a:Ta stvar je ena od redkih ki zares deluje!
Jaz sem mel, na vr-u namontirani kar dve in je bila razlika več kot občutna!
Tak da vam to priporočam, ker zares izboljša performanse!

2 si imel?
Js si bom pa 4 namontiro in bom dobo 80 konjev,če da ena 20 konjev
Spet ena bedarija ki jo folk prodaja,sam da zasluž in zavaja kupce
No nebom reko da neda mogoče kanček več moči,ampak vprašajmo se kako dolgo...da neki ne zaškripa v mašini :P

Jst mam 5 takih na avtu s frgazerjem zmontiranih, zadeva res deluje, zdej ma 1.6 16V mašina skor 250 konjev in leti ko sneta skera.

nebivedu je napisal/-a:Jst mam 5 takih na avtu s frgazerjem zmontiranih, zadeva res deluje, zdej ma 1.6 16V mašina skor 250 konjev in leti ko sneta skera.

Teb pa sploh verjamem ja......še posebi ker si tak fan elektronike v avtih in ker sovražiš mehaniko

nebivedu je napisal/-a:Jst mam 5 takih na avtu s frgazerjem zmontiranih, zadeva res deluje, zdej ma 1.6 16V mašina skor 250 konjev in leti ko sneta skera.

uuuu, a res, a je motor od cliota mogoče? tak kot moje? daj mi prosim povej to skrivnost :P

Black_Racer® je napisal/-a:

Gti-Driver je napisal/-a:Ta stvar je ena od redkih ki zares deluje!
Jaz sem mel, na vr-u namontirani kar dve in je bila razlika več kot občutna!
Tak da vam to priporočam, ker zares izboljša performanse!

2 si imel?
Js si bom pa 4 namontiro in bom dobo 80 konjev,če da ena 20 konjev
Spet ena bedarija ki jo folk prodaja,sam da zasluž in zavaja kupce
No nebom reko da neda mogoče kanček več moči,ampak vprašajmo se kako dolgo...da neki ne zaškripa v mašini :P

Več jih je pol problem zvezat, sam se da, bi pa nekje telko konjev pridobil!